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so you could do a chord progression say with a beat that loops. Then copy that patch to the next number ...and then freely move between each patch without a glitch in the beat?? is that possible. Imo the RC-50 is works fine since the 1.01 update. But I have the impression some users don't exactly know how the device works regarding tempo sync, loop sync and loop quantize. There are excellent PDF support doc's on the Roland web site that cover these subject, highly recommended :) Personally, I think the RC-50 and offers good value for the money. But you can't and should not compare it to high end devices such as the EDP or LP-1; it offers less features, it's more a phrase sampler than a "delay" type of looper. Sjaak --- Scarlet One Unlimited Free national calls, surf up to 6 Mbit/s, 50 GB download volume For only EUR 49,95 per month. No Belgacom subscription needed. All in! http://www.scarlet.be