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thanks, andreas. Yes, I'm using a homemade loop cassette in the four-track, and a standard microcassette in the dictating machine. It's possible to buy pre-made loop tapes (used in the old-style answering machines), but they don't allow you to flip the tape over for reverse effects. I wrote an article about my process for LD some time ago, I need to update with pictures and samples but I'll pimp it again here: http://www.loopers-delight.com/tips/multitrack.html Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com > coool! > i like it. > so youre using a prepared endless-loop cassette, i guess? >