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I'm rather a devotee of the man, I've seen him play live numerous times and always leave amazed. Wilco has a live album called "Kicking Television" where they do, indeed, stretch out a bit more. Nels plays great stuff on it, not doing very much looping, but you can always pick him out in skronky rhythm parts or a couple of great solos. The first Singers album - "Instrumentals" - is fantastic, a bit more indie-rock influenced than their second, "the Giant Pin", which is a tad more free-jazz influenced. They have two new albums coming out - including one that's fully improvised - in the next month or so. If you're into droney stuff, he's done several records with a bassist named Devin Sarno. Their cd's contain some of the most beautiful music I've ever heard, no kidding. And for a real spazzy jazzy freakout, he and drummer Gregg Bendian famously recorded a version of Coltrane's entire "Interstellar Space", plus a lovely version of "Lonnie's Lament" at the end. I could go on... Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com