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Hey Bill valuable info man thanx! i always suspected the weight of all of this things has definetly something do with it,and companies are obviously capitalizing on this new "compact and light" approach (like amp simulation VST organs and leslies no need to carry all of that anymore) but i definetly dont want to sacrifice sound because of it! ive also been checking this babies out at a lower price,sound dispersion more wattage and larger speaker http://www.thomann.de/gb/yamaha_msr_400.htm but why on earth did they not put a handle grip on the top like the RCFs.. hey we arent long hair dudes in our fuckin 20s anymore! Luis yes, what a drag it is getting old... --- Bill Fox <billyfox@soundscapes.us> wrote: > L.A. Angulo wrote: > > Folks, > > i am updating my live PA rig and after trying a > few PA > > speakers i realize how important "lightweight" has > > become for my back,since living in my new home > where > > my studio is in the cellar. > > So the speakers have to be active,grips on the > sides > > and tops and light but powerful enough for clubs > that > > house about 400 people.I am looking at the RCFc > Art > > 310A,very attractive at 12,4 Kg with 300 watts > > but quite pricey compared to mackies so i though i > ask > > before buying has anybody tried them? are they > better > > than the mackies(350,450s) and since they only > have > > 10" speakers would i need x-tra subwoofers for > such > > clubs? > Do you perform solo or in a group? What kind of > music do you play and > what kind of demands does that make on a PA system? > > If you want to minimize the weight, then you might > want to consider > avoiding active speakers. That puts the weight of > the power amp > somewhere else but costs you an extra trip when > loading gear into the > car. My experience is that the best sounding > speakers have the heaviest > magnets and the most solidly built cabinets. That > means they have > substantial weight. Lightening the load for our > aging backs and knees > forces us to find help with carrying gear or to > compromise on sound > quality. Whenever I have to move my JBL speakers > and bass amp, I try to > load the car the day before a gig if at all > possible. That's the > operation that I have to do solo. It gives me over > night to recover and > then there's plenty of band members to help me > unload the car and set up > at the gig. > > If the speakers you are considering require a > subwoofer to handle your > music (only you can make that determination), that's > more weight and > more loading trips and more room needed in your > vehicle that transports > the gear. For me, extra trips, especially when > stairs are involved, are > something to avoid. > > I live on ibuprofen and Aleve on gig days and still > I'm usually a > hurting puppy before the gig starts. Then I have to > sling a bass guitar > over my shoulders for hours on end. > > Cheers, > > Bill > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/