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> How can I (or somebody) else know this has been discussed a > lot of times already? 1. go to the looper's delight website: www.loopers-delight.com 2. click "Mailing List Archive": http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/wilma/LDarchive 3. enter a meaningful search phrase like "forum;looper;delight" and set a large number for max. returned files: http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/wilma_glimpse/LDarchive?query=forum%3 Blooper%3Bdelight&Search=Search&errors=0&maxfiles=1000&maxlines=10&.cgifield s=lineonly&.cgifields=restricttofiles&.cgifields=filelist&.cgifields=partial &.cgifields=case 4. you'll find this: http://www.loopers-delight.com/LDarchive/200604/msg01067.html and the surrounding discussion. I would in fact support a campaign for an improved search engine though... Rainer