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Of course! Unless, that is, the cooking is done around the grill, in which case a good beer should be substituted. --Josh On Jun 7, 2007, at 1:06 PM, aaron leese wrote: > > > Yeah, me too ..... though I need to interject that for proper > improvisational cooking, one must have a bottle of wine. > > > >> From: "Tony K" <bigtonyk@gmail.com> >> Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Subject: Re: OT: thoughts on music and cooking >> Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 13:04:35 -0400 >> >> It makes complete sense to me. I too love to cook. But, I have a >> different >> approach. I approach cooking in much the same way I do making >> music. I >> just make it up as I go along. I grew up in an Italian family, my >> grandmother(s) just showed me how to make things. A very few >> thins there >> were recipes for, but for the most part, it was just experience. >> I have a >> general idea of what I want (the basics), then I just start >> throwing things >> in. So, my cooking and my music are never the same twice, but >> always an >> adventure. :) Sometimes things fail miserably, you know like when I >> accidentally put caraway seed in spaghetti sauce. not good. And >> sometimes >> it's a gem. >> >> Tony >> >> On 6/7/07, Josh Carroll <josh@infinivert.com> wrote: >>> >>> In addition to creating music, I also like to cook. I especially >>> like to >>> making (or rather, attempting to make) sauces. >>> >>> A few years ago I set out to make the perfect salsa. It took me >>> a few >>> tries, but pretty quickly I came up with a recipe that embodied >>> what I think >>> salsa should taste like. All my friends love it too. I usually >>> make it a >>> little thinner and milder than I would personally prefer, but I'm >>> still >>> happy with the flavor, and I feel like it has something unique >>> about it; a >>> little bit of myself expressed in a sauce. >>> >>> This year I decided that my previous recipe was too complicated, >>> so I set >>> out to create a new recipe with half the ingredients. I nailed >>> it on my >>> first try, and honestly I think the simpler recipe tastes better >>> (though a >>> couple of my friends would argue with me). >>> >>> However, I've also been trying to come up with a barbecue sauce >>> recipe >>> that embodies all I love about barbecue for a few years now, and >>> after >>> dozens of tries, I'm about ready to give up. Everything I make >>> sucks, and >>> while a couple of my friends are nice enough to eat my >>> experiments, I know >>> it's never very good. >>> >>> I think there are several reasons for the difference in success >>> rates, but >>> perhaps the most important is this: I have an exact idea of the >>> way I think >>> salsa should taste, and I'm familiar enough with the ingredients >>> to make >>> that happen pretty much every time I make it (a few flops >>> excepted). But >>> when it comes to barbecue sauce, I've tasted so many different >>> influential >>> sauces that I loved, from thin and vinegary to thick and sweet, >>> spicy, >>> brassy, smokey, tart, etc. that it's nearly impossible for me to >>> envision a >>> sauce that captures my favorite things about each. Furthermore, >>> there are >>> so many possibilities for different ingredients that I'm just not as >>> familiar with, that when I taste a half-finished sauce and think >>> "hmm... it >>> needs a little of that sweet flavor from Sharon's house sauce," >>> I'm left >>> guessing at how to make that happen. >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> --------------------------------------------- >>> >>> All of that to say, I look at a lot of you guys (and groups like The >>> Books, Sigur Ros, etc.), and it at least appears that your >>> efforts at making >>> music flow the way salsa-making does for me. You know exactly >>> what you're >>> going for, and you stick with it. Even when it takes a >>> surprising turn, it >>> still turns out great. And I've watched with envy as several of >>> you have >>> sold-off gear and simplified your sets (stripped out half of the >>> ingredients) and come up with a new recipe that's even more >>> profound and >>> satisfying that what you did at first. >>> >>> But lately, making music has felt like trying to make the perfect >>> barbecue >>> sauce to me. I have so many diverse influences and sounds in my >>> head that I >>> want to combine, and I have all this technology at my fingertips >>> that I'm >>> just not as familiar with as I would like to be, that I feel >>> overwhelmed by >>> the endeavor. And everything I have come up with so far is just not >>> satisfying to me. >>> >>> And I'd like at least a few people to think it's good too, but >>> right now >>> the artists I'm hearing who come closest (check out >>> http://www.myspace.com/sonlux for one example) are too much of a >>> stretch >>> for even my most musically inclined friends. >>> >>> Has anyone else been here, or am I even making sense? Any words of >>> wisdom? >>> >>> --Josh >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> -==-=-=- >> Tony > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get a preview of Live Earth, the hottest event this summer - only > on MSN http://liveearth.msn.com?source=msntaglineliveearthhm > > >