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errrrrrr, all this disagreement about professorial salaries aside, I really appreciate the generous sentiment of Kris' original contention starting off this particular thread. He wrote: "Cripes, man... you should be teaching at a university, making $70K a year. Seriously. You're knowledge in this area is amazing." Since I'm bringing down a mind boggling income of about $15k a year (AND trying to live in the heady rent/mortgage environment of the SF Bay Area) it was a really warming thing to have him say. thanks, Rick Walker