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----- Original Message ----- From: "samba -" < > Sorry to go logical on you ,but I don't assume that at all .I spoke only > of the people who sit at their laptops I followed you, though I don't know what a subjective term like "interesting" has to do with logic in this particular case. I am referring to the same people, like myself, Kaiser, and others. If a musician is sitting down at the laptop, they can still be "interesting". For instance, I think Kaiser is particular interesting to watch, even though he sits at his laptop. He plays a trumpet, makes interesting faces, moves around, and is very expressionate. And he does all of this while hardly ever touching his computer, just his controller pedals on the ground,. All "interesting" in my subjective perspective. And I've seen other sit-down musicians do all sorts of fun things. If we say sit-down laptop musicians are categorically uninteresting to watch, then this pretty much rules out the possibility of a disabled person being interesting to you, right? Or can they do something while in the chair to capture your attention? I guess so. But in general, I tend to agree with you that a good portion of the sit-down laptop users I've seen haven't been that exciting to me. But I like to focus on the positive and the exceptions rather than dwelling on the other. It motives more change. So, when you said "One clear advantage to not using a laptop is that people working at laptops are not particularly interesting to watch"....were you generalizing (clearly), stating your personal opinion of only the sit-down laptop users you've seen, or making a specific claim about only a sub-set of sit-down laptop users? That statement was not clear enough to discern your intent. Kris .I'm in no way against the use of > laptops ,or any other gear,nor do I think showmanship is a necessary > part of good music.It's a good idea for folks trying to gig to have >some. > But I find alot of things people do in the name of showmanship trite and > boring . That's why I said I like the fact that percussionists look like > they're doing something just because the instruments are so physical. I > probably have less showmaship than anyone I know,I'm much more >interested > in riding the vibe than in acting out. One of the reasons I've played >so > much dance music( esp for various freaky subcultural scenes) is ,I want > the audience to visually stimulate me. I also find audiences that sit > there staring to be kind of boring. >> One clear advantage to not using a laptop is that people working at >> laptops are not particularly interesting to watch. > "This assumes that they have to look at and touch their laptop, which > isn't > always the case. In most cases, I can close my latop lid and do >everything > with my MIDI controller - I can now with my new max system. Also, some > hardware loopers are also not particularly interesting to watch either. > One > just just as easily stare at his/her footpedals and instrument, rather > than > engaging the audience." > > _________________________________________________________________ > Make every IM count. Download Messenger and join the i'm Initiative now. > It's free. http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGHM_June07 > >