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Re: MIDI Tuba



Yeah baby, i'm already doin that, i'm switching to a macbook pro to
see if I can do it real time with less delay :)

On 6/15/07, Doug Cox <uncledig@gmail.com> wrote:
> just a thought - you could always pitch shift your loops post-recording
> inside of ableton using one of the gazillion free VST pitch shifters.
> SpectralMonkeyage or Choptich (from our own Matthias Grob!) would be my
> first recommendations.
>
> ug
>
> On 6/15/07, miles ward <miles932@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Wow!  Thank you all for the amazing input!  Couple of clarifcations:
> > I'm playing multitimbrally quite alot on the old FunkEngine by doing
> > the sing+buzz vocalization trick... maybe this wouldn't capture that
> > well, which would be fine, just a different constraint.  Totally agree
> > on the low frequency problems, i'm often playing Bb 2 octaves below
> > the bassclef staff... it's like 33hz..
> >
> > I also agree with staying off the midi tip... i'm trying to stay more
> > in loop(ableton)+vst+mic to pedals to guitar amp sort of things.. the
> > sticky is big big octave shifts to be able to play melodies up in
> > normal ranges and not have it sound like a hamster is stuck in my
> > mouthpiece.  Or, bail out from up there, and just loop next to richard
> > on stage and let him handle everything above 250hz :)  which brings us
> > back to the two loopers working together conversation, sync, and all
> > those lovely issues. So much fun!!
> >
> > On 6/15/07, Mech < mech@m3ch.net> wrote:
> > > At 3:00 PM -0400 6/15/07, Bill Fox wrote:
> > > >Sorry Richard,
> > > >
> > > >The hex pickup you mention is an electric guitar pickup that depends
> > > >upon a metal string vibrating.  It won't work otherwise.  However, I
> > > >would suggest to Richard that he get a contact mic and feed it to a
> > > >pitch-to-MIDI converter.  I don't know what devices are out there
> > > >these days.  The Roland VP-70 from the '80s might work although it
> > > >is meant for voice input.  Considering the low register of a tuba,
> > > >you might be plagued by excessive conversion times.
> > >
> > > Bill's spot on with his write-up.
> > >
> > > What might also be an interesting experiment, though, would be to
> > > wire up a contact mic/piezo element to one terminal on a 13-pin cord,
> > > then try running the signal into a modelling processor like the
> > > Roland V-Bass, which is tuned to handle low-frequency content.
> > >
> > > The GK pickups are designed to split each string into its own
> > > individual signal.  As Bill pointed out, these pickups -- just as
> > > conventional guitar pickups -- are dependent upon a vibrating metal
> > > string.  However, we know other sources can work.  There are
> > > GK-compatible piezos, for instance, that work fine for nylon-string
> > > guitars.
> > >
> > > Since you'd just be sending a single signal, figure out which one of
> > > the 4 - 6 bass strings most closely matches the range of a tuba, then
> > > wire a cheap contact into that pin of the 13-pin plug.  Since it's an
> > > experiment, you'll most likely want to borrow a V-Bass for an
> > > afternoon, but I'd bet you'd get some interesting results.
> > >
> > > Oh, and I'd probably stick with physical modelling technology and
> > > stay away from MIDI.  Even if you manage to get decent tracking
> > > (well, a tuba is a monophonic signal) the long wavelengths being
> > > processed by a "pitch-to-glitch" converter are likely to cause an
> > > irritatingly long delay.
> > >
> > > Otherwise, I've heard good things about the IVL PitchTrack (hard to
> > > find) as well as the old Fairlight (impossible to find)
> > > pitch-tracking unit.
> > >
> > >        --m.
> > > --
> > > _____
> > > "I want to keep you alive so there is always the possibility of
> > > murder... later"
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > ---Miles Ward
> >
> >
>
>


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---Miles Ward