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Yeah baby, i'm already doin that, i'm switching to a macbook pro to see if I can do it real time with less delay :) On 6/15/07, Doug Cox <uncledig@gmail.com> wrote: > just a thought - you could always pitch shift your loops post-recording > inside of ableton using one of the gazillion free VST pitch shifters. > SpectralMonkeyage or Choptich (from our own Matthias Grob!) would be my > first recommendations. > > ug > > On 6/15/07, miles ward <miles932@gmail.com> wrote: > > Wow! Thank you all for the amazing input! Couple of clarifcations: > > I'm playing multitimbrally quite alot on the old FunkEngine by doing > > the sing+buzz vocalization trick... maybe this wouldn't capture that > > well, which would be fine, just a different constraint. Totally agree > > on the low frequency problems, i'm often playing Bb 2 octaves below > > the bassclef staff... it's like 33hz.. > > > > I also agree with staying off the midi tip... i'm trying to stay more > > in loop(ableton)+vst+mic to pedals to guitar amp sort of things.. the > > sticky is big big octave shifts to be able to play melodies up in > > normal ranges and not have it sound like a hamster is stuck in my > > mouthpiece. Or, bail out from up there, and just loop next to richard > > on stage and let him handle everything above 250hz :) which brings us > > back to the two loopers working together conversation, sync, and all > > those lovely issues. So much fun!! > > > > On 6/15/07, Mech < mech@m3ch.net> wrote: > > > At 3:00 PM -0400 6/15/07, Bill Fox wrote: > > > >Sorry Richard, > > > > > > > >The hex pickup you mention is an electric guitar pickup that depends > > > >upon a metal string vibrating. It won't work otherwise. However, I > > > >would suggest to Richard that he get a contact mic and feed it to a > > > >pitch-to-MIDI converter. I don't know what devices are out there > > > >these days. The Roland VP-70 from the '80s might work although it > > > >is meant for voice input. Considering the low register of a tuba, > > > >you might be plagued by excessive conversion times. > > > > > > Bill's spot on with his write-up. > > > > > > What might also be an interesting experiment, though, would be to > > > wire up a contact mic/piezo element to one terminal on a 13-pin cord, > > > then try running the signal into a modelling processor like the > > > Roland V-Bass, which is tuned to handle low-frequency content. > > > > > > The GK pickups are designed to split each string into its own > > > individual signal. As Bill pointed out, these pickups -- just as > > > conventional guitar pickups -- are dependent upon a vibrating metal > > > string. However, we know other sources can work. There are > > > GK-compatible piezos, for instance, that work fine for nylon-string > > > guitars. > > > > > > Since you'd just be sending a single signal, figure out which one of > > > the 4 - 6 bass strings most closely matches the range of a tuba, then > > > wire a cheap contact into that pin of the 13-pin plug. Since it's an > > > experiment, you'll most likely want to borrow a V-Bass for an > > > afternoon, but I'd bet you'd get some interesting results. > > > > > > Oh, and I'd probably stick with physical modelling technology and > > > stay away from MIDI. Even if you manage to get decent tracking > > > (well, a tuba is a monophonic signal) the long wavelengths being > > > processed by a "pitch-to-glitch" converter are likely to cause an > > > irritatingly long delay. > > > > > > Otherwise, I've heard good things about the IVL PitchTrack (hard to > > > find) as well as the old Fairlight (impossible to find) > > > pitch-tracking unit. > > > > > > --m. > > > -- > > > _____ > > > "I want to keep you alive so there is always the possibility of > > > murder... later" > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ---Miles Ward > > > > > > -- ---Miles Ward