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Hi Per, 1) this is pretty cool. I didn't get that "mode" thing before. If you want to control effect chains this is perfect. But what if you want the effects in a row and bypass some of those effects ? (like on a normal pedal board) This will work with the MIDI switcher. I just don’t know how to control the "bypass" parameter. The "mode" just controls if the effect is ON or OFF. 2) What is this pitch shifter plugin? Would be great to have something I could do realtime timestreching with. The Mobius timestreching has a bad timing right now. Greetings Jens -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Per Boysen [mailto:perboysen@gmail.com] Im Auftrag von Per Boysen Gesendet: Samstag, 23. Juni 2007 12:40 An: Jens Wolters Cc: Loopers Betreff: Walk-through tutorial for Bidule as VST host in Windows (was: Re: bidule) On 23 jun 2007, at 01.25, Jens Wolters wrote: > Hi Per, > > you had a link with a pic of your bidule setup on loopers delight > some time ago. Can you send me that link again? > That was really interesting. Hi Jens, I'm copying this to the Loopers Delight so anyone else also interested in Bidule can pick up on it. Here's a screen shot: http:// www.looproom.com/bilder/bidule2007ff400.JPG And here's a walk-through following the signal chain: On the top there is the audio interface and I'm using three mono inputs: (1) Microphone for sax+flute+voice, (2) Instrument line in for EWI analog signal, (3) Instrument line in for electric guitar. All three inputs are set to different levels to match the variations in instrument output level. This is extremely important when working with software like the AmpliTube Jimi Hendrix because otherwise you miss out on that cool dynamic distortion algorithms that does follow the dynamics in your playing. On the sax/flute/voice input there is a bidule filter to cut out bass and add some high frequencies. Since I'm looping this is essential to make layers blend well in the loop without sounding too muddy at the lower end (more of this "reversed mixing" technique is implied by the choice of VST effects in the chains). For the EWI and guitar inputs I have chosen to initially shape the tone with the Amplitube plug-in, I like that better for those instruments. The "Gain_6" is a Bidule input level control binded to one of the FCB1010's expression pedals. I use it for violin-like note attacks when playing guitar and to prevent acoustic feedback between played notes when using the mic over loud PA's. Next in line is the Audio Switcher bidule. This is where incoming MIDI Program Change commands from my FCB1010 pedal board mutes all following effect chains except the one corresponding to the received MIDI PC. This is how you set it up: 1. Click "Parameters" at the top menu row in the Bidule window. 2. In the upper left window of the now opened Parameter window, locate the Audio Switcher object and open its parameter list by clicking the small "+". 3. For binding to MIDI Program Change #1 select "Processing Mode Output 1". 4. In the window to the right, locate the first of the VST plug-ins in the chain and open its parameter list by clicking the small "+". 5. Locate the parameter "Mode" and select it (should be fairly high up in the list). 6. Click the "Link" button below (you will now see this binding turn up at the bottom window under "Source" and "Target". 7. Repeat step 4, 5 and 6 for all other VST plug-ins in this effect chain. One Audio Switcher object has 16 tags from where you drag a virtual cable for the following, alternative, effect chains. Only one of the effect chains is active at any give moment and the muted chains are completely taken off the CPU load. I'm assembling all effect chain's outputs with an Audio Matrix object. I could as well pipe them all directly into Mobius stereo input 1-2 but I kept it like this because I can then easily add a reverb when playing concerts in a too dry sounding venue. (adding ambience both to live inputs and Mobius outputs). Since this is Bidule mainly set up for studio recording I'm leading every Mobius output individually into the audio interface to send them to a recording computer as individual channels through optical ADAT. I noticed though that Mobius does send out Track 1 on the audio interface channels 1,2 and 4. This means everything happening on Mobius Track 1 is also merged into the right stereo channel of Mobius Track 2, in the recording. I can work around it by cabling my live input to a different audio interface output and not use Mobius Track 1 (which I'm almost not doing anyway, because some actions on that Track sends MIDI Start Song command but not the same actions on other Mobius Tracks... anyway that's OT here). This was a studio multiple output setup, but for a simple live set-up use only output 1-2 of the audio interface and merge all Mobius Tracks before sending to PA (in Mobius you can set the "VST Output" individually for all 8 tracks). Oh... one last note. I do not use Mobius function "Configuration / Global Parameters / Monitor Audio Input". Instead, as you can see, I have cabled my live input directly to the audio interface output 1-2 (will change this to 9-10 though to fight the Mobius track channel output bug). The reason is that I don't want my live playing signal to be affected by the dBlue Glitch plug-in that I have put between Mobius Track outputs 2, 3 and 4 and the audio interface outputs 3-4, 5-6 and 7-8. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://www.myspace.com/looproom