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man, thanx a lot for your mails. i remember we had some email contact before. about the fireworx and the ewi. i am fiddling around with native's guitar rig 2 at the moment. seems to be a rather simple version of "looping plus fx". all in one stand alone program. guitar rig two has a looper (with a multiply function - horray! the edp has finally changed the world. little baby steps...). i still have to check out the posibilities of opening a chain of loopers. after opening three of them, a kind of ducking occurred on the later loops. the first one seemed pretty stable. well, i'll tell you more when i gain more info. here is what i do right now: contrabass flute into digitech's vocal 300 into DL4 into EH 2880. so i can have a delay/chorus/flanger/pitcher, make a short loop in DL, reverse it or half speed it and record this (while adding something else) into the 2880. i can add more layers in the 2880 and play around with individual levels. now i can record a new thing into DL4 and use it for a transition/ending. as you can see, i use the loopers on a pretty low level. although i own an edp, i have not used it up to know. (never disturb a running system). all the best - tilmann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" <perboysen@gmail.com> To: "Loopers" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 1:19 PM Subject: Re: mobius vst question > On 23 jun 2007, at 12.19, Tilmann Dehnhard wrote: > >> hello fellow loopers, after looping with hardware loopers for a long >> time, i want to try first steps with a laptop setup. >> >> here is what i want to do: >> play through a chain of vsts into mobius. control the vsts and mobius >> via fcb1010. >> (as far as i understand, mobius can not host vsts, etc. is that right?) > > Yes. > >> do i need a host program? > > Yes. > >> i have ableton live. i tried mobius as a vst and it shows up as a vst >> but doesn't make a sound. > > You have to pipe the audio stream from your audio interface input into > Mobius. Regard Ableton Live as a mixer. > >> would you use ableton live or a different program? > > I was usinig Ableton in the past but now I prefer Bidule for two >reasons: > (1) Letting me use 16 alternative effect chains pre looper with no >extra > CPU load and (2) perfect sync with tempo dependent effects and Mobius > used as the sync master to set the global tempo by the first loop > recorded (Ableton tends to loos sync when run as the sync slave). > >> about the fcb1010: i would like the buttons 1-7 to react like the >> original edp buttons. > > 1. Make sure your FCB pedals only send out one MIDI Note each (default >is > sending out a cluster of events). > 2. Assign the pedals you want to use to the Mobius functions you want >to > use (MIDI learn in Mobius, very easy). > > Since you are familiar with the EDP I suggest you simply read the >Mobius > manual and locate the functions corresponding to the function you are > used to with the EDP and duplicate your trusty old EDP set- up. Then you > can expand it piece by piece as you go into the brave new future. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > > > >