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As Scott's initial post only triggered a discussion why in the hell he sells the stuff, let me just add this here: The eclipse is an excellent-sounding effect with a lot of very powerful algorithms. Very professional (all the connections you could dream of, including XLR and 1/4 in/out, SPDIF, AES/EBU, TOSLINK, you name it, two connectors for expression pedals), decimal keyboard. One (negative) review on harmony central said under the "quality of sound" heading: this should be renamed "quantity of sound". For this effect, Fripp's quote "this remains the best way to make a lot of noise with one guitar" is in order. I believe that the Eclipse/Looperlative combo is the most powerfull stuff you can do with 2HUs worth of rackspace. Highly recommended for loopers who want to go really pro. Rainer > I really need to sell this(my looperlative too) 1200.00(cash > only) takes the Eclipse. > 2400.00 takes the Eclipse,Looperlative,controllers and the 4 > space rack..