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I didn't realize you had another Echo, per. In fact, I totally neglected the fact that they had other options besides the IO. Check this one out, AudioFire 4, with actual mic pre's: http://www.echoaudio.com/Products/FireWire/AudioFire4/index.php Check out the specs. Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" <perboysen@gmail.com> I also have an Echo AudioFire2 that is about the > cheapest you can go without buying crap. This also sounds good but > doesn't offer good mic pre amps. I use mine for digital input. >