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You're right about the Zendrum. Think of it like a computer keyboard, it just tells a computer what do display. In this case your computer is a sound generator... or it could be a computer running a VST. VST stands for Virtual Studio Technology and it's a standard that Steinberg came up with so that developers could make effects and instruments that would run within any VST compatible application. So, you could get your Zendrum to control any MIDI sound generator OR with the right interface and software you could get it to control a virtual sound generator (Like Battery) M -----Original Message----- From: Philip Pan [mailto:7stringviper@earthlink.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 11:56 AM To: Loopers Delight Forum Subject: Re: newb questions Well, here's another area of new territory and ignorance for me - MIDI. The Zendrum is simply a MIDI controller. It would run through a drum module to generate sound. Am I correct in assuming that the signal coming form the drum module would/could be analog? In that case, the violin, mic and Zendrum would all just go through a mixer into the looping hardware, right? So my original statement about needing MIDI input may be incorrect. What does "VST" mean? Did a little surfing on the Repeater and sound quality seems to be a common complaint. Thanks for your help! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Ash" <Daniel.Ash@Verizon.net> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 12:59 PM Subject: Re: newb questions Philip, You haven't completely described your requirement for MIDI input - but the Electrix Repeater will only record audio in. It's MIDI functionality is for control purposes only. Not sure about Looperlative, but I assume it's an audio-only looper. A laptop/Mobius solution would also allow you to record MIDI from your Zendrum to a MIDI track in real time. This would require that you run the VST version of Mobius in a host sequencer of some sort, such as REAPER or Ableton Live! The Repeater does appear to meet most of your other requirements. Looperlative may offer better audio quality. My Repeater can get pretty warbly when it's sync'd to an upstream clock.YMMV I use the Behringer FCB1010 MIDI foot controller, which should fill the bill - it's very cheep for what it does... I don't have a laptop looping setup, but as a drummer you may have special requirements wrt latency. You'll need a powerful system and compatible sound card (there's a good thread about sound card latency going on right now). This is certainly an issue if you want to use VST instruments as well as Mobius. Dan Ash White Plains, NY > Subject: > newb questions > From: > "Philip Pan" <7stringviper@earthlink.net> > Date: > Tue, 31 Jul 2007 01:56:20 -0400 > > To: > "Loopers Delight Forum" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > > > Hello, I am very interested in live looping. I know what I want > functionally but I don't know what equipment has these capabilities. > My computer/software knowledge is also quite limited. > > Here's what I'm after: > > 1. Four or more independent loop banks that will automatically > sync and can be individually recorded, played back, stopped and > erased at any time in any order. > > 2. Multiple inputs from different instruments and MIDI. The ones I > have in mind now are a Zendrum (MIDI drum controller) and an electric > 7-string violin. Maybe vocals too. > > 3. Everything (record, play, stop, erase, switch tracks) controllable > on the fly from stomp buttons. > > 4. Save and download part or all to an external computer as desired. > > Is there any hardware looper that can do all this? The closest I've > seen is Digitech's GNX3 or 4. I'm not sure if individual tracks can > be played and stopped at will; I know they can be erased. > > My other option could be software-based with some kind of foot > controller linked to a laptop. Are there foot controllers that would > work well for this? How powerful a laptop would be required? > > Thanks, I'm sure your answers will spawn a whole new set of questions! -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.0/927 - Release Date: 7/30/2007 5:02 PM