Re: general question about equipment

[Dan Ash <Daniel.Ash@Verizon.net>]

> as for hardware loopers, I've done quite a bit of research and it 
> seems that the digitech GNX4 at around $500 is the best bang for the 
>buck.
This looks like a very powerful processor, and the 8-track recording 
possibilities sound terrific.  However, it's not at all clear to me that 
the 'loop mode' is suited to live performance.  There's been so little 
discussion here of this unit and its predecessors that I think others 
have reached this conclusion, too.

I suspect (and somebody please correct me if I'm wrong) that the looping 
capabilities are limited to post-processing.  That is, you record or 
import a track and set a loop point using the controls manually.  It 
looks like the optional foot controller is dedicated to the 
record/stop/play functions.  Neither Digitech's description of this unit 
or the manual highlight a real-time scenario that includes looping.

Anyone have any hands-on experience with these processors?

I think the computer-based solutions running Ableton Live or Mobius have 
*way more* potential.  If you have a computer, purchase of a foot 
controller or MIDI keyboard can be your only cash expense. Mobius is a 
free download and has a great user community that will help with any 
questions you may have. 

I have a friend that's been trying to convince me to scrap my 60-lb rack 
and get on the Ableton bandwagon.  I'm very tempted, save for the $500+ 
price tag.  The Live! demo doesn't permit you to save your 
configuration, so is not very practical other than maybe to run through 
their tutorial.  So I'm leaning towards Mobius myself. 

Anyway, as BreachinThePeace points out - regardless of which of these 
paths you choose, I hope you have the *time* to explore the almost 
limitless possibilities of these tools. I spent nearly a year learning 
to 'play' the synth/looper system as an instrument.  It's an ongoing 
effort.

Dan Ash
White Plains, NY