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Some thoughts on Ritardandi, Accelerandi and stretching time in live looping: 1) My brother Bill does this all the time with his Repeater controlled by the two expression pedals of his Behringer FCB1010. Thankfully, the new version of software is out for the original Repeater and they will be releasing the Mark 2 model at the 2008 NAMM show. My understanding is that it will be at a much lower price point than before. Bill and I have been in contact with the new owners of Electrix and Bill has been using the new software (a review when you get a chance, Bill if you haven't already written one?) so this is not the typical smoke and mirrors we've come to accept from this company in the past...............it's also brand new owners so I think the previous ones were having problems getting venture capital to keep the company afloat. 2) Additionally, there are past posts somewhere where we talked about stretching time and phrasing in long loops. Steve Lawson hipped me to this idea. You play a long loop that hints at metricity and constant metronomic time but stretches it. You record a stretching phrase....................wait an equivalent length of time and then record another one.........................doing this several times in a row, you can then begin to record 'response' tracks to the original 'call' loop. Steve then would keep building the track but listening really intently to how he recorded the original idea until by the end of the piece he has memorized his original loop and can then begin to reharmonize and retimbralize it. 3) on last thought: time is relative in performance so if you lay tracks down that are fixed in length, you can then play against that track with ritadandi and accelerandi giving the illusion that the whole track is stretching. 4) you can also stop a loop and continue seemlessly playing in the style of what you have recorded with an accelerandi or ritardandi looping yourself again when you reach a new tempo. I do this all the time in performance to create a more naturalistic flow of time.