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On 13 aug 2007, at 22.27, Luca Formentini wrote: > Very nice Per, > I also love fretless ( which I often use with ebow) and found that > you have found a nice spot to make the sustainer work so well with > a basically difficult situation ( unfretted notes) to make sustain > - I think the solution is in the thick strings ( Sustainiac is more > sensitive the more mass the string has). Yes. But I use the C model Sustaniac. It's a mechanic device, not electro-magnetic. A mechanical clamper is put temporarily on the head stock. The analog output from the guitars output jack is amplified and drives that vibrating clamper so the vibrations go back into the wood of the neck and back into the strings. I don't think thickness of strings matter much in this pure mechanical process, which they do with electro-magnetic solution like the Stealth Sustainiac or the Fernandes sustainer. BTW I tested a friends strat with a Fernandes and found it very different in playing and sustaining action. > But I really enjoyed the background sliced happening. Only one loop all through. Making changes to that loop as you go. Only SUS Substitute work with no use of feedbck until the final outro of the song where it goes into classic feedback/overdub layering. > Now I understand better about your approach to Mobius, which is so > different from mine. How would you describe your approach? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international)