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software

Hi!
I'm Erik and I'm pretty new around here. I have been using  
loopstation for a while now and wonder if there is any software (mac)  
or vst plug that can do the same thing. I've been trying with Ableton  
Live but I want the first clip to determin the length of the loop  
without using metronome and then be able to put more layers on that.  
And I don't really have time or energy to learn max/msp.