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I love the Boss OC-2 Octave. http://www.bossus.com/index.asp?pg=1&tmp=21 I like mixing the original sound with the signal transposed 1 octave down. The original signal adds dirt/realism to the octaved sound which by itself seems synthetic, like a sine or square wave. Of course the pure octaved sound has its appeal, too... All these settings can be configured on the pedal itself without the need for a separate mixer. Bernhard On 17.08.2007, at 18:27, <graham.maureen@sympatico.ca> <graham.maureen@sympatico.ca> wrote: > what pedals would people here recommend to do bass sounds on my > guitar when looping? I know there must be good octave (lower the > octave?) units to d a convincing bass sound to add to a loop when > playing guitar?