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Really? I looked at that... never seemed to quite make sense to me with it's limitations. I always thought if I had the chance to do it all again with a bigger budget I'd go for one of these: http://www.openlabs.com/ Mark -----Original Message----- From: Krispen Hartung [mailto:khartung@cableone.net] Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 7:25 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: processors? I know. If I ever had to go back to hardware, I'm pretty sure I'd get the Muse Receptor. Kris ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 9:16 PM Subject: RE: processors? My god, is that your doctorial dissertation on audio effects processors!? Impressive. -----Original Message----- From: Krispen Hartung [mailto:khartung@cableone.net] Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 3:34 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: processors? I've done a fair amount of research on tone mangling effects, before I went to max/msp and Reaktor. This is what I came up with... TC Electrnoic FireworX Boss VF-1 Alesis Akira Lexicon LXP5 ..or if you want a lot of flexibility rather than a one trick pony or "25 trick pony", get one of those Muse Receptors and load it with the following VSTs: Antares Filter Antares Kantos PSP42 PSP84 Toy Bear Monster Bag Cycling 74 Hipno Cycling 74 Pluggo ...ah, hell. Just check this out: The Sample Sound Clip, VSTs, and URLs http://www.box.net/public/fobok5z5dy (to download or stream - 25 minutes long!) Direct link to 23.6 MB MP3 file: http://www.box.net/public/static/fobok5z5dy.mp3 You can follow the sounds in the clip in this order, or jump to the minute:second marker: 00:29 - Lexicon PSP84 http://www.kvraudio.com/get/509.html 01:01 - Lexicon PSP42 http://www.kvraudio.com/get/508.html 01:29 - Antares Filter http://www.kvraudio.com/get/818.html 01:54 - MHC Space Effect http://www.mhc.se/software/plugins/spaceeffect/ 02:20 - Pluggo Feedback Network http://www.cycling74.com/products/pluggo) 03:03 - arcDev Cyclotron http://www.device.arcanedevice.com/?sig_mod 03:15 - Pluggo Fragulator http://www.cycling74.com/products/pluggo 03:26 - Toybear Madshifta http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1324.html 03:39 - NuSofting Morphing Delay http://nusofting.liqihsynth.com/Morphing.htm 03:55 - Nusofting Trimmetry http://nusofting.liqihsynth.com/Trimmetry.htm 04:09 - Pluggo Rye http://www.cycling74.com/products/pluggo 04:18 - Pluggo Warble http://www.cycling74.com/products/pluggo 04:27 - BrushFX http://www.kvraudio.com/get/454.html 04:46 - Crazy Ivan http://www.macmusic.org/software/releases.php/lang/en/id/1143/plug/VST 05:09 - Pluggo Weat http://www.cycling74.com/products/pluggo 05:17 - dfx Geometer http://destroyfx.smartelectronix.com/ 05:33 - dfx Scrubby http://destroyfx.smartelectronix.com/ 05:47 - Grumblebum http://www.kvraudio.com/get/894.html 06:10 - Glitch Jockey http://www.kvraudio.com/get/2094.html 06:19 - Pudding (http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1335.html 06:33 - Reversinator http://www.kvraudio.com/get/988.html 06:45 - Pan-Oh!-Rama http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1661.html 06:54 - Drive32 http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1493.html 07:13 - fxpansion Ringmod 07:23 - WTF http://www.kvraudio.com/get/816.html 07:30 - Pluggo Space Echo http://www.cycling74.com/products/pluggo 07:39 - Pluggo Speed Shifter http://www.cycling74.com/products/pluggo 07:55 - E-Phonic LOFI http://www.kvraudio.com/get/737.html 08:05 - FX Jockey 08:11 - Glitchgirl 08:18 - Analogic Delay http://www.kvraudio.com/get/891.html 08:28 - KTGranulator http://www.kvraudio.com/get/625.html 08:46 - Antares Kantos http://www.kvraudio.com/get/248.html 09:03 - Scuzzphut6 http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1156.html 09:14 - Univibe by Simulanalog 09:41 - arcDev Hosebeast http://www.device.arcanedevice.com/?sig_mod 09:48 - arcDev ET-200 http://www.device.arcanedevice.com/?sig_mod 10:00 - Charsiensis http://www.kvraudio.com/get/2264.html 10:13 - Crazyator 10:23 - Pshift http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1118.html 10:30 - Pluggo Squirel Parade http://www.cycling74.com/products/pluggo 10:42 - Hipno Amogwai http://www.cycling74.com/products/hipno 10:55 - Hipno Deluge http://www.cycling74.com/products/hipno 11:02 - Hipno GrainStream http://www.cycling74.com/products/hipno 11:10 - Hipno Morphulescense http://www.cycling74.com/products/hipno 11:20 - Hipno Multilution http://www.cycling74.com/products/hipno 11:29 - Hipno SfylterBank http://www.cycling74.com/products/hipno 11:36 - Hipno Shypht http://www.cycling74.com/products/hipno 11:46 - Hipno SPuntorrt http://www.cycling74.com/products/hipno 11:57 - Hipno Squeege http://www.cycling74.com/products/hipno 12:15 - Hipno SquiglyQ http://www.cycling74.com/products/hipno 12:35 - Hipno Technishypht http://www.cycling74.com/products/hipno 12:41 - Toybear CandyBox http://www.tobybear.de/p_monsterbag.html 13:11 - Toybear DelayDevil http://www.tobybear.de/p_monsterbag.html 13:22 - Toybear RedRack Multi http://www.tobybear.de/p_monsterbag.html 13:31 - Toybear Robobear http://www.tobybear.de/p_monsterbag.html 13:38 - Toybear ShivaShifter http://www.tobybear.de/p_monsterbag.html 13:45 - OctBUZ http://www.kvraudio.com/get/641.html 13:56 - DeeLay 14:09 - GRevDly http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1298.html 14:18 - GGrain http://www.kvraudio.com/get/2189.html 14:25 - OverDubber (http://www.kvraudio.com/get/1816.html 14:37 - ParadigmShifter3 http://www.kvraudio.com/get/640.html 14:48 - Sun Ra http://www.kvraudio.com/get/490.html 15:00 - Reaktor 2 Metaphysical 15:16 - Reaktor 5 Blackbird 16:00 - Reaktor 5 CrossFX 16:35 - Reaktor 5 Abominatrix005 16:42 - Reaktor 5 Alexander 2 16:53 - Reaktor 5 Amor 17:05 - Reaktor 5 Brain Clown 17:23 - Reaktor 5 Congratulations 17:36 - Reaktor 5 Dada Delay 17:56 - Reaktor 5 Deliter Delux 18:08 - Reaktor 5 Dub Fix 4 18:19 - Reaktor 5 Easy Reverse Grooving Line 18:30 - Reaktor 5 Filtrator 18:49 - Reaktor 5 Funny Edge 18:57 - Reaktor 5 Ginsu Delay 19:07 - Reaktor 5 GradelReverb 19:22 - Reaktor 5 InsertDemonll 19:30 - Reaktor 5 LaserBrew 19:46 - Reaktor 5 LilThree 19:53 - Reaktor 5 Madpad 20:02 - Reaktor 5 Mr. Pink 20:10 - Reaktor 5 MultiBandDelay1 20:22 - Reaktor 5 Orange Grains 20:30 - Reaktor 5 Pitch Cloud 20:38 - Reaktor 5 Prime Delay 21:03 - Reaktor 5 Random Grain 21:16 - Reaktor 5 Resonatrix 21:28 - Reaktor 5 Space Delay 21:33 - Reaktor 5 Space Granny 21:46 - Reaktor 5 Spektre 22:00 - Reaktor 5 Split Distortion 22:16 - Reaktor 5 Pachinko 22:35 - Reaktor 5 Split Distortion (again) 22:50 - Reaktor 5 Stotterer 23:02 - Reaktor 5 Stutter Delay 23:14 - Reaktor 5 Traum Delay 23:22 - Reaktor 5 Vocastoerung 23:35 - Reaktor 5 White Grains 24:04 - Reaktor 5 Blackbird (several presets/snaps) Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: <nick@12testing.net> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 3:32 PM Subject: processors? > What item of hardware, other than synth, do you think is best for > making a guitar sound unlike a guitar? I've got all the ambience I > need, but would like some new suonds. > >