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Graham, A "harmonizer" type of pitch transposer will allow you to retain the basic timber and texture of the guitar sound. A wammy pedal is an example of a good inexpensive choice here. The disadvantage is that the process has latency. An "Octave Divider" will generate a filtered squarwave output. Rather synth-like and not 'bass guitar' like. The Electro Harmonix 'Octave multiplexer" and the Boss OC-2 are good. The disadvantage is that the effect is monophonic (that is to say only a single note at a time can be processed - no polyphony) A third option is to use a looper that allows you to record in varispeed. The Electro Harmonix 16 second delay and the 2880 allow realtime octave jumps. This produces the most realistic effect. THe disadvantage is that your backing loop will playback in double time while you overdub the "bass" part. More sophisticated loopers like the looperlative LP-1 and the software based "Sooper Looper" allow playback to happen at 1/2 speed without affecting the other tracks. -Chuck Zwicky >hi there, > >what pedals would people here recommend to do bass sounds on my >guitar when looping? I know there must be good octave (lower the >octave?) units to d a convincing bass sound to add to a loop when >playing guitar? > >graham -- ... http://www.zmix.net