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So then, the fastest solution would be straight to the ExpressCard
slot.
Yes, but speed isn't everything. It is more about
what audio interface companies are building and what is compatible/reliable.
And for some of us who don't have FW on our PC notebooks, goig to the cardbus
or ExpressCard is a nice solution. Right now, the FW interfaces appear to be
the big kids on the block. Will someone create a kick butt ExpressCard
interface? Not sure. RME would be the next logical choice, since they have
already developed a Cardbus interface...I almost bought it.
Kris
Why to limit it here to firewire
800... Do we expect some florishing top of the range audio interfaces using
this type of interface?
Raul.
2007/8/28, Krispen Hartung <khartung@cableone.net>:
Cool,
David. I will try the ExpressCard too. My ThinkPad has both a cardbus
and
ExpressCard slot. I didn't know they had FW adaptors for those
yet?
Amazing.
I too had problems with a Cardbus/FW adpator I
bought several months ago, to
try out a FW audio interface. I had a IRQ
conflict. However, someone else on
this list here had success with
another cardbus/FW adpator made by
Adaptec...so, I bought that yesterday
and will try it with my ThinkPad once
I get the RME FW400. But I'd love
to use a new ExpressCard adaptor.
Kris
----- Original Message
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Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 12:24 PM
Subject: RE:
pcmcia/cardbus vs. firewire
I've just had an experience that may
point to the direction of things to
come.
Two
observations/hypotheses:
1 - the demise of PCMCIA
2 - poor
mainstream acceptance of Firewire
I just got an MOTU UltraLite (audio
digital interface) that didn't work
with the Firewire in the laptop,
perhaps either because it didn't like
the 4-pin format (needs 6-pin), but
also because MOTU requires either
the TI or the Lucent 1394 chipset, and
the laptop used a Ricoh 1394
chipset.
I decided to get a PCMCIA
Firewire card, and found out that, to my
surprise, my (also new) laptop
didn't have a PCMCIA slot. It has an
ExpressCard slot, which
is not reverse compatible to PCMCIA. (I also
have to buy a
new wireless data card.)
So, I bought an ExpressCard Firewire card
that has both 6-pin and 9-pin
800/400 1394 (http://www.siig.com/ViewProduct.aspx?pn=NN-EC2812-S1
).
Except for having a hunk of plastic hanging off the side of my
laptop, I
have been EXTREMELY happy with it. ALL of my latency
problems have
disappeared (I was using a pretty beefy but single core
laptop with USB2
- Tascam 428).
In addition to the conspicuous
deprecation of a PCMCIA slot, it's
curious that a $4000 Dell multimedia
laptop
(
http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/xpsnb_m1710?c=
us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19)
- with 6 USB ports - only has a single, 4-pin 1394
port.
Dave
Huffman
-----Original Message-----
From: Krispen Hartung
[mailto:khartung@cableone.net]
Sent:
Tuesday, August 28, 2007 10:51 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: pcmcia/cardbus vs. firewire
Well, Rainer sent
these figures out as a result of a thread we had on
this:
5. USB
1.x 12Mbps = 1.5MBps
4. FW400 400Mbps
= 50MBps
3. USB 2.0 480Mbps
= 60MBps
2. FW800 800Mbps
= 100MBps
1. PCI/PCMCIA 1.1Gbps =
133MBps
If you are using FW800, then it appears cardbus will not get
you that
much
more speed. But more importantly, Per or Andy?
did
the math to suggest that all this speed will not necessarily get
your
better peformance, given the bandwidth requirements
of
mulit-tracking.
Also, it may be the case that audio companies
just haven't invested that
much in cardbus solutions (except for
Indigo and RME, a few others),
so there are performance issues not
related to speed. I've read a few of
them on some audio
lists.
Finally, PCMCIA evolved to Cardbus (CardBus are PCMCIA 5.0 or
later
(JEIDA
4.2 or later) 32-bit PCMCIA devices, introduced in 1995)
and now we have
ExpressCard. Interesting article
here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExpressCard
The
ExpressCard has a maximum throughput of 2.5 Gbit/s, versus CardBus's
shared 1066 Mbit/s bandwidth.
Kris
----- Original Message
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From: Raul Bonell
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent:
Tuesday, August 28, 2007 10:33 AM
Subject: OT: pcmcia/cardbus vs.
firewire
hi there,
one question.
why if (relating
other talks here before) cardbus is faster than
firewire,
people still
wanting to go firewire. do macs have cardbus slots? due to
the
price
when getting the adapter and interface?
i'm suposing here
pcmcia=cardbus. am i wrong?
well, not one question at all...
;-)
thanks in advance,
raul.
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