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I'm sorry to see a seperate list for so-called off topic discussions. The world veiws,inspirations and interests of other artists are as useful to me in developing my own art as technical considerations.I'm far more bothered by endless reprints of the same messages,code and other stuff that amounts to white noise as far as scanning the digest goes. I find certain guitar oriented discussions,such as the use and abuse of fretless guitars interesting and informative.But I wouldc certainly consider them off topic too if we have a narrow defintion of what is cogent to looping. _________________________________________________________________ Messenger Café — open for fun 24/7. Hot games, cool activities served daily. Visit now. http://cafemessenger.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_AugHMtagline