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> Kris, > I am a bit late on this but ill tell you my opinion on > the fw800,i own it since about a year.At first i was > impressed with its sim but compared to my Koch > twintone tube amp it sounds a bit harsh for my > ears,ive used it though for funky compressed rhythm > guitar tracks which works ok.Ive never used it live > though. > Nothing coming out of a guitar through a digital amp > sim has really impressed me soundwise, i remember > seeing Fripp live and he had a Digitech new preamp and > a roland GP100 at the time and his sound was really > cold to my ears,Adrian on the other had had a much > warmer sound! > Luis Yup. I agree. Most of the digital sim amps I've used sound relatively "stiff" and lacking in that non-linear warmness you get from a tube amp. The Roland Cube series does the best that I have been able to find with my own testing and personal preferences I'm surprised no on has commented on the sound clip I send out with my best shot at a warm jazz guitar tone with just the Boogex VST amp sim. Not a single soul replied...how disappointing. : ( I've been working on that computer based tone for years, and I am a picky SOB when it comes to juzz guitar tone...not that I am using it to play trad jazz, but I start with that tone as a starting point for most of my avant-garde looping performances. I've just grown to like a nice warm and traditional jazz guitar tone from a tube amp. Here is the original message, in case most everyon deleted it by accident amidst all the OT threads. Cheers, K- ***************** Now, here is my tone example (not a song, just me looping the A section of "Black Orpheus"and soloing over the top): - Guitar running directly into my ThinkPad T60p sound card (just the stock soundcard and ASIO for All driver), no preamp - Sound card into Max/MSP patch - MAX/MSP patch with only the free Boogex amp VST and my max reverb patch (no other effects or patches) And to add some comedy to the clip, I recorded this with my mini guitar, a 1/2 size Epi "Roadie" solid body electric, with a '57 reissue humbucker (from my ES-335), shown here: http://www.krispenhartung.com/gear/epi.jpg Here is the clip, complete with clams and blemishes: http://www.box.net/shared/static/8ougz31hkk.mp3 Now, I actually think this tone is halfway decent, given the clean and warm jazz tone I after, and given that I'm not even using a real amp, just a VST, and using no preamp or "botique" external audio interface. My next test will be when I get my Fireface 400. If I see a major improvement, I may be good to go. We'll see. Bottom line, for guys wanting to get a traditional jazz tone, I think there is hope for doing that withh the laptop and decent audio intereface....and a mini solid body electric to boot! :) Imagine that. I could do a standards jazz gig with a mini guitar...seems ridiculous, but doable. I might get a lot of laughs. Kris