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Luigi said: > Or how some Neumann mics (and I mean the pricier ones) are total ripoffs of older Telefunken mics? Or the AKG C12 mic > is also a ripoff of the telefunken Elan? And they have also the face to make their ripoffs cost more than the While I'm with you for the rest of your post, here you have to consider this: For the old Neumann mics (pre-WW2), Neumann only manufactured the capsules. The electronics and housing was manufactured after Neumann specs by Telefunken. So the Neumann mics are ripoffs of older Neumann mics with a "Telefunken" logo on them. Rainer