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i think jaco was more interested in glassing his brain,then his frettboard....MICMANUS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Goddard, Duncan" <goddard.duncan@mtvne.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 11:27 AM Subject: RE: OT fretless >>I see no reason to use epoxy,it's not removeable and will change the resonant character of the wood,as it doesn't flex the same way If you think you need a hard finish,a standard finish from plyuerathane to nitro cullulose should work fine.<< I can't speak for jaco, but many other bassists who've defretted their instruments, especially ones that they like, are concerned about the deleterious effects of roundwound strings on the unprotected wood. I have a few fretless necks myself where a couple of years of using r/w strings has left it's mark on the fingerboard. eventually, this interferes with the playing action, causing buzzes & so forth. I think jaco realised this when he acquired his first fretless bass- the frets had been taken out by a previous owner ("it looked like someone had taken a hatchet to it!"). his response was to try to get a finish like glass, which with the roundwound strings he used resulted in the distinctive bright sound he wanted, actually much closer to the sound of a fretted instrument than some of the fretless basses that have come along since. so if I want my fretless rickenbacker (a professionally defretted 4001) to sound like a regular 4001, with roundwound strings & no long-term fingerboard damage, then epoxy is probably the way to go. the trick is to stop the wood from soaking up too much of the liquid, & persuade the coating to stay on the surface..... d.