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great thread,just curious what type of in ear monitors are u using or would recomend? Luis --- Zoe Keating <cello@zoekeating.com> wrote: > this is my #1 problem onstage when looping on cello. > i deal with it by: > > 1) being very specific in my stage plot about how i > am positioned > relative to the speakers. no speakers should be > pointing at me and i > try to be positioned at least 6 feet behind the > nearest PA speakers. > i.e. the back of the stage! some venues (dance > clubs) have speakers > pointing towards the stage, i get them to turn those > off for my > performance. and setups where the PA is angled and > the stage falls in > the sound arc. i won't play those stages anymore. > > 2) related to that, if using an amplifier, set it in > front of you and > do your looping behind it. > > 3) don't do looping while on top of a subwoofer. > often they are > underneath the stage. find out where they are and > move away from them. > > 4) certain kinds of microphones are worse than > others. make sure your > mic is directional and is not picking up sound > behind it. > > 5) before soundcheck explain the technicalities of > what you're doing > to the soundperson. there is a physical limit to how > loud i can go > before sonic chaos ensues. i work with the > soundperson to find this > threshold during soundcheck so they can experience > it. > > 6) in ear monitors. > > > On Sep 21, 2007, at 12:29 AM, Chris D'Errico wrote: > > > > > Greetings all... > > > > I'm new to this list, & to the world of looping, > but I have already > > run into a problem that I'm hoping someone could > help me with: > > > > When looping vocals/harmonica in live > performance-- through a PA, > > or guitar amp, or both-- the microphone picks up > the sound of the > > PA/amp & starts to record itself recording loops-- > sort of like a > > "mirror looking into a mirror" effect... At low > volume it's not > > much of a problem, but at the higher volume > necessary to push the > > sound out to an audience in a decent size room, I > can't stop the > > sound from the PA/amp from bleeding into the mic. > It gets worse the > > more layers I try to add to the loop, with the > live mic rerecording > > the sound, it eventually causes a thin, tinny, > high pitched > > feedback sound that destroys the process & > performance. I never use > > monitors because that just makes it worse-- the > mic picks that up > > also. > > > > Other singers out there who create live loops must > be familiar with > > this problem, it's got be very common. Is there > any possible way to > > counter this? Any ideas on a workable set-up? > > > > I use an old Shure mic into a few stompbox pedals > into an Akai > > Headrush loop pedal & out to an old tube amp which > has a line-out > > that I run into the PA system when needed. > > > > Thanks for your time & attention, > > > > Chris D. > > Las Vegas, Nevada > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Kick back and relax with hot games and cool > activities at the > > Messenger Café. > > > http://www.cafemessenger.com?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_SeptWLtagline > > -- > Zoë Keating > Avant Cellist & Composer > > Contact info: > > Telephone: 707.827.3217 > Mobile: 415.867.5292 > > cello@zoekeating.com > http://www.zoekeating.com > http://www.myspace.com/zoecello > > Snail Mail: > Zoë Keating > PO Box 175 > Camp Meeker, CA 95419, USA > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/