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On 25 sep 2007, at 05.10, kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com wrote: > Often, when I am just experimenting with patterns, etc... I just > loop 'n quantize -- once the decisions are made, I re-record > everything without quantization and loops. This brings a human > "feel" and "nuance" to the result. In my own praxis I prefer strictly quantized drum programming. The reason is that my taste rather favors "making machines groove" than "laying down a human groove". However, I quantize, but not mathematically "on the beat". Instead I use groove templates of a couple of bars length. In some software I work with, I like to change this global template while the music is going to change "the feel" of all synchronized machines ("grooving the entire orchestra"). It amazes me that so few of the music software manufacturers out there offer this option (in fact, this phenomenon is what traditionally makes great bands what they are). In drum programming I apply random scripts, not to affect the timing, but to mess up factors as note duration, timbre, pitch or effects like ring modulation (nice for hi hat). Interesting thread! Enjoyed the video on the Aamen break. Great that the narrator wrapped it up with Lawrence Lessig etc. Made sense. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international)