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At 9:37 AM +0100 9/24/07, nick@12testing.net wrote: >Just been flicking through the manual for roland's new pedal, doesn't >seem very impressive. The midi channel seems to be set globally Not entirely true. There are four different modes. IMNSHO, two are there mostly for convenience (one which is straight PC, and another oriented strictly on CC values, if I recall correctly), so I believe what you've read is correct for those modes. The third, or "Sysex" Mode, is focused solely on integrating tightly with the VG-99. Finally, the meat and potatoes for external control is in the fourth mode, known as Patch Mode. As shown on page 35 of the FC-300 manual, Patch Mode can send a MIDI stream on pedal press on multiple MIDI channels. There are a variety of MIDI message types that can be sent: PC, CC, MIDI Note On/Off, Channel Aftertouch, Key Aftertouch (whaaa...?!?!), Pitchbend, and even MIDI Machine Control. Short of sending "true" Sysex commands, the darn thing is almost as flexible as my PMC-10. In fact, Patch Mode reminds me a lot of programming the Digitech pedal -- especially with the separately programmable Pedal On & Pedal Off streams. The main things lacking between the two units are (as I alluded to) the FC-300's inability to program a Hex Sysex stream, and a couple of the more advanced Latch modes implemented later in the PMC's lifespan. >and the unit is nearly as wide as the FCB1010, being shorter by the width >of the end exp pedal. I've got the FCB-1000 also, and that delta in length does actually make a difference. I'm able to fit the FC-300 into a relatively reasonable-sized suitcase, so I can check it with the luggage when flying (it's pretty sturdy so I'm not concerned that it's going to get damaged, and besides, what else in there is it gonna do damage to -- underwear?!?). The FCB is always a pain to take anywhere, due to it's longer length. As always, though, YMMV. >In addition, changing from preset 5 to 6 >involves 2 presses, since the two banks of 5 share the same pedals. >Hmmm. Yeah, that's an architectural thing that I don't know how they could've gotten around. And you're going to find the same thing on any pedal with 10 switches at the border between Patches 10 & 11. There is another Pedal Step Size setting called 10Step, which MAY (and a very qualified may) help in your particular situation (page 49 of the manual). Essentially, every pedal becomes dual function. Press Pedal 2 once, and you get Patch 2. Press it a second time and you get Patch 7. This then toggles between the two sets of five (of course, the up and down buttons switch between banks of 10 in this mode). The downside is that you may potentially end up with other, completely different, situations where you're having to do double presses instead. >There are inputs for 3 more exp pedals - I wish they had offered the >pedals as optional upgrades - firstly some people don't use/need them >and secondly it's useful to position the pedals on the other end of >the board, or even away from it (eg for a wah pedal at the front of >the stage). Not really following you here. We're talking about 3 extra jacks on the back. These can be used for up to 6 external switches (using FS-5u's or FS-6's), 3 expression pedals (EV-5's), or a combination of those. You can always position the pedals anyplace you want, as long as you get a cord that reaches your final position. In fact, I use an FS-6 on one end of the unit, with an FS-5u plugged into the Mode jack at the other end (just to make certain I don't get the pedals confused. Now, I was not very bullish on this unit until I got one in a package deal with the VG-99, so I started trying to make a go of it. The more I use it, the more impressed I'm becoming. I'm actually starting to consider it as perhaps a replacement for my PMC-10 (which is out of production, and ain't getting any younger). Sure, there are things the PMC does that outstrip this pedal entirely, but do I really need those functions all the time? I've got the FCB as well, and I think the FC does a better job overall than that pedal. There are some *really* annoying things about controlling multiple devices with the FCB, and I don't think even the Gordius addresses those... yet(!). In regard to the VG-99, I can't say I could be more pleased. The FC-300 integrates flawlessly, even taking power from the VG. Very, very useful in collaboration with that unit. However, one of the problems I will say with the Roland is that the FC-300 manual is only a step or two above the Behringer's notoriously unreadable manuals. The information is there, but you've got to play hand's on with a unit before anything starts to make much sense. I think this is where a lot of the confusion comes in. I know it's certainly where I got such a rotten impression of the device before one landed in my lap. Anyway, I should have more of a concrete impression soon. Within the next 24 hours, I should be beginning the chore of actually programming my laptop and Looperlative via the FC-300. I'll either be back here to confirm that it's a viable device, or you'll hear me swearing at what a piece of crap it is. Stay tuned.... ;) --m. -- _____ "I want to keep you alive so there is always the possibility of murder... later"