Thanks for the music links and the info, it has given me a few ideas. The ambience looping is really interesting. I am itching to try out the harmoniser trick. I have often wanted to 'bend' notes, ala clavichiord. Regarding your traditionalist wife, if you haven't already just point her towards traditional classical composers such as Bartok 6th quartet last movement, and Charles Ives quarter tone pieces. Doubt you will win her round....
best
leon
Another loop environment I have is taking boundary mics of the pianos, feeding the room sound into my outboard reverb units set to be extremely wet, modulated and with long delays times (5s and above). Depending on the mic choice you get very dark or very bright modulating reverb washes. I don't make them much of a feature in my tracks- they get used for background noises in tracks and especially for links between sections when I can't find something more compositionally relevant.
You can hear some of the ambience looping in the background of this short guitar loop:
I'm a throat singer and will position myself over the piano strings and throat sing against the strings and capture that
I'll see if I can find some that sounds more like piano- I tend to modify and filter the audio a lot.
It isn't high tech by any means- but works for me.
The pianos are in different rooms- I have long cable runs and control the hardware remotely using Apple's remote desktop. There is a Logic environment that I use to send program changes to the echo pro to control it.
Any desk changes require sneaker-net (yes, walking back to the control room).
Not ideal but I don't have the room to have both pianos in my live room.
Sometimes I'll just play direct to dat or some other 2 track recorder (ipod) and then use the audio as 'tape loops' that get fed into different pieces of hardware or software. The main thing is flexibility.
Regards,
Jim Richmond
On Sep 27, 2007, at 9:23 AM, The woodshed wrote: