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> and what about pitch shifting capabilities on the dd20? > non of the hardware loopers i have can affect picht... First of all, by "pitch shift" do you mean what DnB guys refer to as "pitching" (which I tend to call varispeed, i.e. you change playback speed and pitch changes accordingly) or as a pitch shift effect (pitch changes, playback speed stays the same)? The Repeater can do both. The DD20 can do neither of them. In fact, according to Per's chart (http://www.looproom.com/looperchart.php), the Repeater is the only hardware device which offers full varispeed/pitch shift/timestretch control. There are a few devices which offer varispeed: the Digitech RDS/PDS series do this very nicely, a lot of HW loopers have halfspeed (EDP, DL4,...). But for the whole deal...only the Repeater