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On the old David Torn instructional video, he mentions the oscillator in the machine and demonstrates its effect with some harmonized delays. Forgive my ignorance, but is an LFO present as a controller for any sort of time-based modulation, i.e., the rate control on a simple chorus pedal? Does every harmonizer have an LFO? And do looping machines such as the Repeater which offer some pitch control also have an LFO? Or is the PCM-42 unique in having this effect available in its delays/loops...? Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > The PCM-42 delay line has an LFO which is used to modulate the delay > line, it can be used to create flange, chorus or wobbly echos. It has > two waveforms available, triangle and square. If you use an expanded > memory PCM-42 and modulate your loop with the square wave the effect > will be similar to having someone switch the speed of a tape machine, > with dramatic jumps in pitch and speed.