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Don’t hesitate to ask about this at the NI reaktor forum; they’re very open to beginner queries and generally more than helpful. Just be clear about how you’re defining “looping;” they use the term in a variety of ways over there, mostly using prerecorded sample maps, and not referring to live looping of instrumental input. I’ve searched myself for pre-built ensembles that act as live-input looping devices and there are some, definitely, but since I’ve always had hardware loopers since I started messing with Reaktor, I was never motivated to pursue any of them very hard. (It’s been a long while, which is why I’m not able to be more specific...) I found it more interesting to try to build my own delay-centric toys, scavenging from other’s work, mostly, and to use Reaktor FX for post-loop mangling, at which it is unparalleled. I put together a tutorial on FX in Reaktor based on what I learned and there’s some simple examples of long-delay devices in there. It’s one of the links below: To get you started: http://www.native-instruments.com:80/forum_us/search.php? searchid=2711329 http://www.nativeinstruments.de/index.php? id=userlibrary&type=0&ulbr=1&plview=detail&patchid=4139 http://www.nativeinstruments.de/index.php? id=userlibrary&type=0&ulbr=1&plview=detail&patchid=3581 http://www.nativeinstruments.de/index.php? id=userlibrary&type=0&ulbr=1&plview=list If you find anything cool, post back! HTH, dc On Nov 23, 2007, at 7:50 AM, rithma wrote: > ***my real question first, then my ramble...*** > has anyone found/experienced/developed any quality loopers and live > performance modules using Native Instruments REAKTOR???? i just > got a legit copy of that, and i must say it is an unbelievable > universe of a program, both for plug & play purposes as well as > core level development. The user library is huge, and i havent > had luck in the looping department quite yet. > ideas? > long time, no see, list! i hope everyone is well and enjoying > those peaceful nights tinkering. > i spontaneously bought a boss RC-50 looper after months and months > of configuring Ableton live (an array of midi controllers, track > routing & rerouting, etc) and when it finally came down to it, > ableton took a dump on me every time we had band practice. i WISH > they would have left that feature out of the program. now i see > all those RC-50 emails make that $500 seem pretty depressing. Is > roland going to do a firmware upgrade via the usb connection on > that thing? > is the only way to go really to fork over the clams and get two EDPs? > > nice to see y'all again....quite good company for a bunch of > strangers...(wink) > etienne > rithma music >