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Kris, You will love the subs. Another person mentioned that subs allow you to deliver a BIG sound at moderate volume levels. That is precisely why I use them on my system. Incidentally, a 32' open pipe (Contra-low C) has a wavelength of 64' at 1056/ft per second that equates to a frequency of 16.5hz. The sound of a flue pipe is kind of like a tympani roll -- a reed pipe sounds kind of like a motorboat. One does NOT need these huge pipes to play the organ -- but, oh man... when they are there the sound is awesome! :) Enjoy those subs! -- Kevin Quoting Krispen Hartung <khartung@cableone.net>: > I just bought two of the powered Mackie 1501s. I couldn't resist the > Guitar Center price. :) The rooms I would be using these for would > be anywhere between 100 to 500 seaters, or a medium size club (10K > square feet?) > > Kris > ----- Original Message ----- > > > What kinds of rooms Krispen? The PA I had most experience with > was 2 x 2x18 push-pull cabs with 2k watts apiece, and it was > amazing outside on an open field, and removed tooth fillings > indoors. We were on sort-of a budget, and used Peavey but the sound > was clean enough that Ray Brown (amazing jazz bassist) used one of > these as his bass amp during a jazz performance on our campus and > remarked "wow! that's serious low end, I like it" If it's enough > pound for outside, and clean enough for jazz upright bass, I'll take > two :) > > When we unpacked everything in a store room, hooked it all up in a > gleeful rush, put in the then recent crystal method vegas cd, and i > skipped to 'cherry twist', while my boss said "hey, do you think > this thing is going to be very loRRRAAAAAAMMMP" as three foam > ceiling tiles fell down because I "accidentally" had several knobs > marked gain turned up beyond reasonable levels.... Delicious. > > I also conveniently had neutrik speakon connectors for the > subwoofer for my van at the time, and this subwoofer in there was > just insanity. It was an astro, and it would open the side windows... > > <end of bass nerd gush fest> > > > On Jan 2, 2008 8:27 AM, Travis Hartnett <travishartnett@gmail.com> >wrote: > > An octave below 41.2Hz would be 20.6Hz. > > > > On Jan 2, 2008 8:06 AM, Krispen Hartung <khartung@cableone.net> >wrote: > > As many folks know on the list, I use laptop processing via > max (looper, > > other octave effects) that completely transform the sound of > my guitar. It > > is not uncommon for me to play a low E on the guitar (82.4hz), and >then > > apply a two octave drop. I'm not sure what that would be. It > would be below > > 41.2hz, which is low E on a bass guitar. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > ---Miles Ward