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> > Per Boysen wrote: > > > me even music with no sounding beat has a tempo. So that's why I > > prefer Plogue Bidule instead of Max when I need to program with a > > "virtual sound design toolbox and patch-bay". Bidule has a good system > > for synchronizing tempo relating modules and it also supports VST Time > > Info. > On Jan 7, 2008 11:45 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > > I hear from the VST developers mailing list that. > 1) Bidule was the only host that allowed vst plugs to freely sync with >each other.( don't know if it's > true, but I guess they meant Cubase/Ableton etc don't support it. I'm no hardcore programmer, but I have had a very good experience with syncing VST plug-ins in Bidule. That is on both OS X and Windows XP. Bidule works the same on both systems, but I think it's even more powerful when run on a Mac because it then also supports AU plug-ins. I actually almost abandoned VST's on Mac - until Logelloop was released, which unfortunately only supports two VST plug-ins (and only in an effect send loop, no way to put plug-ins pre looper to play them and loop the effect spiced sound). > 2) Steinberg are going to drop that functionality from the specs for vst >with the next > big upgrade to the vst standard (vst3). It'll still be possible to >create hosts and plugs that > use that type of syncing, but it's unlikely to become widespread. Oh, that was bad news. At least there are still enough syncable VST plug-ins available to set up a good looping rig around Mobius in Bidule on Windows. My Mobius laptop rig won't need any more VST's so I am gladly backing it up, with all my license keys, for using it for many years on many lappies in the future. > > Matthias Grob has been in contact with Plogue, it seems that Bidule is >not a significant source of income for them, they make a profit by >selling their 'technology' to other companies. However, Bidule is >important to them for publicity and as a demo. They only have one >developer working on Bidule ( mostly to support changes in the OS), but >don't plan to abandon it. > This explains why Bidule is still around, but not really changed much in >a couple of years. Not necessarily all bad news. The fact that software doesn't change may actually a good thing for active artists. Given the software works well. This gives you a stable platform and instrument to develop your musical expression with. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international)