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> Per Boysen schrieb: > > I remember there were something that kept me away from investing in > > it now, maybe because they are not finished with the AU support, On Jan 21, 2008 8:10 AM, Stefan Tiedje <Stefan-Tiedje@addcom.de> wrote: > > There is a third party AU external available, not as versatile than the > vst~ external, but seems to work, and you can create Pluggos which run > as AU. Thank you, Stefan, but that is exactly why I'm not buying Max/MSP; a third party extension is needed. When hearing developers talking about the AU protocol it just seems to be a good system and something you'd better support from the ground and up. I'm just too sick with VST after having spent too many hours trying out different plug-ins of the same functionality to find those which are stable to use with a particular host. It seems the Max concept as a whole also needs "workarounds" when dealing with tempo related processes - which is the very nature of looping and also the way I look at music (ie measuring "time" as related to a given tempo instead of absolute values as milliseconds). I don't think Max is bad or anything, but my interested is not in programming per se, only in getting some specific software tools to make music with. As for my recent needs Plogue Bidule is faster for me for setting up certain patches I need. I used to think that I may buy Max/MSP to create a looper, as I want it, but this doesn't seem to be needed either today, thanks to the direction Loogelloop is taking. Maybe in the future, if Loogelloop gets its act together, I might buy Max for the direct purpose of creating plug-in extensions to that looper. Meanwhile I'll keep monitoring the progress with Max 5. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international)