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On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 9:12 AM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote: > I so wish some hardware looper would incorporate the pitch stretching > technology of the Electrix Repeater. Yeah, me too.... I sold my Repeater four years ago in the strong belief that someone would succeed in creating a software for real-time looping and pitch-shifting with time-stretching (which IMO would be more useful than having the functionality locked into a certain hardware). Many tried but no one have yet succeeded. And there is a big market demand for it. Some software loopers with pitch-shift/time-stretch algorithms that work but still-not-just-right are Logelloop, Mobius, SooperLooper... well, can't remember more right now (skipping over AU Looper, since it has other coding errors that makes it unusable). And then we have all those DAW developers that offer perfectly working with pitch-shift/time-stretch algorithms - but only for people who prefer to program first and then sit back to push the Play button for playback of the music. Ableton Live, Serato, Celemony Melodyne, Acid, Apple, Pro Tools... They are all excellent tools for producing recorded music, but since they are not real-time there's not much in there for live looping. Because of the above I have been scrambled into using rate/speed-shift instead for many years. This means a loop is becoming longer when the pitch goes down and vice versa (old-school sampling style). So you also get this fascinating poly rhythm aspect when working with pitch in live looping. I really like this, it's an endless source for musical inspiration! -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international)