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Thanks for the info, Andy, I'll check out some of their vids. By referring to his speed, I should have mentioned that when I see him live, I sit obsessively close and could tell if one of his 128th-note runs was popping out with a delay. Too bad about chords, I was hoping it'd track well. And unfortunately I'm less interested in the octave drop, rather that imitate a bass I prefer a lovesick seagull. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > HK uses a delay with square wave modulation on the time. > (it was discussed here just after y2k7) > > >> Nels uses one of the original Digitech Whammies, which seems to >> track very well (and he plays so fast it'd be obvious if there was >> a lag), > > Speed of playing isn't affected by lag. > (just accuracy of timing) > >> but they're very pricey and bulky, so I was hoping the microPOG >> would fit the bill. So is there actually some delay in the octave up? > > yes > it's not possible to do real time up-shift without some lag. > >> And it's unusably flat...? > > it *is* a bit flat, > whether it works for you only you can decide. > > why not check out the Youtube videos. > > I'd also dispute their claim that it's polyphonic. > On simple (rock) chords it works, but on complex chords > it's nasty sounding. > > The sub-octave tracking for single note lines is superb, however, > with no delay and good intonation. > > andy butler