Re: Engineering Live Loopers

["Clint Allen" <clint.allen@gmail.com>]

I engineered sound for a show over the weekend where the band submixed their vocals (5 vocals) for various reasons of their own. They did not submix well at all and ultimately I had no control over their vocal sound. It really turned out badly and the audience AND band kept saying "more vocals!" and there was little I could do except give increased feedback. It was a nightmare. It is difficult to stop the show and adjust their submix for them :)

On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 2:05 PM, Ian Popperwell <popperwell@iname.com> wrote:

I agree, When I do PA gigs, it surprises me the number of laptop composer/musicians who do not have multiple outs - sending drums, bass, pads, leads, effects and everything to a PA and it is always the same mix no matter what the venue acoustic. I think that to be able to at least seperate the main sound areas for FOH mixing is the best solution.

 

I've had similar issues with keyboard players that just have a stereo out and yet run bass, pad and lead sounds all running at volumes that I have no control over at the desk - the audience don't know it's not the engineer's fault!

 

Ian

----- Original Message -----

From: Clint Allen

To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

Sent: Monday, April 07, 2008 6:46 PM

Subject: Re: Engineering Live Loopers

As the sound engineer for a medium-sized club, I think I much prefer as many individual outs as possible, just so I can also give them more flexability for their monitor mix.

However, I say that because I get tired of the mundane 3-vocals and a kick mic scenario and like the challenge.

As a looping musician though, I usually only get to send a stereo out.

 

Clint Allen

On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Chris Sewell <lunamusic@mac.com> wrote:

Stereo outs too the FOH engineer. Slipping him a $10 tip never hurts either.

On Apr 7, 2008, at 1:16 PM, darren perry wrote:

I'm a front of house sound engineer as well as using live looping in my own music. I've engineered live loopers before and wondered how people set up their outputs to the sound engineer, if you're lucky enough to have one at your gigs. Trying to engineer a stereo feed from a computer or looping device can be quite frustrating. I went through a stage (as I was playing and looping multiple instruments) of sending each instrument separately to the engineer, easy as I use Ableton. I felt that I couldn't mix the sound well enough from the stage to give a good sound to the audience so left the engineer to do what he was there for and sort that out for me.

Basically, do most people rely on sending a stereo output to the front of house sound desk? DO you mix your tracks live? Does anyone else send multiple outputs to give the engineer something to work with?

I'm looking into this as another small part to my research paper on Looping Technology and Live Looping.

Thanks

Darren
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Clint E. Allen
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Clint E. Allen
* Technology Consultant
* Sound Engineering