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For some reason, my posting got delayed for some folks. Anyhow ... Jim: The difference between SL and a webcast or a podcast ... a podcast is a "fixed" file, i.e., it is recorded and then available from a "permanent" location, either a single URL or a website with multiple listings of other podcasts,each with their own URIs. A webcast is a URL pointing to a server that will stream a file. That file may be pre-recorded (as in, using the file from a podcast) or a live transmission (like we did for the electro-music New Year's Eve performances, or what Darrell Burgan does each Saturday night for his Blue Water Drift Dive over at stillstream.com ...). In general usage, a podacst is static and may consist of multiple files over time (each perhaps representing unique performances). A webcast is generally seen as the streaming of a "live" situation/broadcast, though in the case of "web radio" that stream may be "recorded" files. Sometimes the distinctions are a little on the whiffy side of semantic shading! Second Life takes advantage of both. In my case, it is more analogous to a webcast, as I am performing the work live in my humble 2nd bedroom studio, feeding the audio into an interface of a computer, streaming the results out to an aggregating server which then feeds the audio into SL. The "live performance" aspect kicks in once I log on to the Second Life environment, where my avatar is doing an animation of playing a guitar (a Fender; working on getting a copy of my Godin made!) in front of an audience of other avatars who are logged in, literally, from all over the world. During breaks in playing, I can interact with the audience via typed Chat or Instant Message and through voice via the webstream. Last November, I did a live performance on stage at Princeton University; this was a "simulcast" into Second Life, with a feed in of both audio and video, along with my avatar being present. This is the second time I have tried something like this (the first being at the "@ Lab" of Ohio University last Spring to inaugurate their new Second Life performance space). There is a growing number of people looking at this latter kind of virtual performance of combining live audio and video feeds in to SL from their real world performances. Most recently, I have done a session, using ninjam, with a group of performers scattered between Chicago, Boston, Munich and Berlin, Germany and Sköndal, Sweden (I hope I types right!) with the ninjam server streaming our combined audio into SL, where our avatars are. For a group like Chinapainting, this might offer some interesting possibilities. Hope this helps and gives some ideas ... let me know if I can assist. Dennis On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote: > Dennis I'm just now seeing this. Is this (SL) different from a web > cast or podcast, is it in theory 'live'? We [Daryl] and I were at one > point in that we are remote more than live in person thus far, were > looking for something like what this sounds like for Chinapainting > performances and have since settled for doing a monthly podcast > (http://chinapainting.podomatic.com) series.. > > It sounds a bit like one of my son's Habo Hotel things but audio only? > > Anyhow sounds like it might be an option when the actual live market > can be lean. > > Thanks for clueing me in... > > Jim Goodin > www.jimgoodinmusic.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > > > On 4/11/08, Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com> wrote: > > Thanks, Todd ... > > > > Yes, Second Life CAN actually be a good regular gig and can provide a > > few extra hundred bucks per month for playing while wearing your > > pajamas, not smelling like stale beer and smoke when you finish and > > not having to worry about lugging your gear up 4 flights of stairs or > > having it ripped off from your car. > > > > But it's like any other gig in that you have to take it seriously and > > work hard at giving your best to the audience. > > > > Last year I think I did over 200 concerts; this year, I've scaled >back > > considerably, but only because I have some real life projects that >are > > keeping my hands full. I have a regular monthly concert series that I > > am doing this year at one particular venue (Bibi's Sky Castle, for >the > > cognescenti!) and will probably add a couple of extra performances > > through the rest of the year. > > > > There are not many folks who are self-professed Loopers performing in > > SL; don't know why and maybe it isn't important. > > > > But if you want to share your music and are willling to spending some > > time developing a highly appreciative audience, then you should > > consider it. It always amazes me to see the spikes in downloads and >CD > > sales after each performance, with more of them coming from Europe >and > > the UK than the US ... what is it they say about a prophet not being > > appreciated in their own land? > > > > If you do sign on to Second Life, feel free to drop me a notecard >(the > > IMs get capped regularly) ... look for AldoManutio Abruzzo ... > > > > Best you all, > > > > ~~D. > > > > > > On 4/11/08, todd reynolds <toddreyn@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I'm on there (Kamerin Kokorin) and so is LD community member >Dennis Moser, > > > but frankly, I've found it difficult to start a community there >without > > > quite a bit of time spent, and it is HIGHLY addictive for me... >Thanks for > > > bringing it again to the list, Jeff. > > > > > > but I did get all my live stuff working so that I could perform >'inworld', > > > and Dennis performs at the Princeton University performance space >often, > > > which is a beautiful space, and Dennis has established a nice >audience for > > > himself (everytime I've visited to watch)... > > > > > > time for a new thread for this stuff if we get into it, cuz it's a >DOOZY of > > > a convo... > > > > > > Todd