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That's exactly what I've been thinking throughout this whole thread. I hadn't commented because I've not read all the posts and thought someone had probably already mentioned it, but it really does seem that almost every pedalboard you see out there has at least something like a DL4 or an RC-20 on it. Now whether or not all those pedals are being used for what we would consider live looping is another question, but it does raise the problem of determining who gets to be on such a list based on such a 'gray area' set of criteria. The list might consist of: 1) Well-known musicians of any musical style who've been sighted with looping gear onstage or in the studio, with no consideration as to its use. (As Stefan pointed out, this would be HUGE.) or 2) Well-known musicians known to incorporate some degree of live looping into a variety of contexts. or 3) Well-known (?) musicians who've established their entire careers using looping as an integral element of their musical style. Obviously there'd be a lot of overlap between these categories... We might also have to define 'well known': take someone like Andre LaFosse; he's undoubtedly expanded the techniques of live looping and regularly pushes the envelope, but is pretty much unknown outside of a comparatively small group of like-minded musicians. I would think someone like that would be more worthy of comment within our specialized community than would Joe Rockstar who might be using a DL4 as a delay or doing some rudimentary looping on a tune or two, but is clearly much more highly visible to the general public. -t- --- Stefan Tiedje <Stefan-Tiedje@addcom.de> wrote: > Another thought about this list of fame: Imagine you > should list famous > pianists, any list would be more of a personal > reference, and would be > far from being complete, in the contrary, a complete > list would be > unbearable. This is a clear sign, that the piano is > an established > instrument. > We are heading into the state of looping being an > established > instrument, because a complete list is as likely to > be too big, as > incomplete... http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson http://www.youtube.com/speleman62 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ