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>You'd need something that lets you map MIDI info to the plugin parameters, and then you still have the problem of most plugins are designed >with the assumption that you'll have a large, color display to work with, not the small (greyscale?) display I see in the mockups on their >pages. In this discussion, we weren't considering most plugins, but one specifically. And that plugin is one that models a physical device which (if I'm not mistaken) has a few LEDs and a 3-digit LED number display or something to that effect. I found that when I do my looping work using Mobius, there is only a minimum amount of information I require as an optical feedback from the plugin. Most of the time I don't even have the Mobius screen up. Rainer