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the v-pedal may cost 1299.- € says this little vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9WheK71yFc&feature=related that's a lot of bread... tilmann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" <rs@moinlabs.de> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 4:35 PM Subject: AW: They stole our idea! > The unit with the pedal looks particularly interesting. I > wonder if some Mobius users could look at it and discuss > wether or not Mobius would work with it. It looks really cool. Particularily interesting is a retail price of below €400 (which might even drop some once it actually hits the market). That means IF Mobius does work on it properly, you can have an embedded version of Mobius which is cheaper than an EDP or Looperlative and costs about the same as a RC-50...