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I have the soundcraft mfx 12/2 and i am very very happy with it,smaller than the mackie cfx12 i use to own,more channels,quality sound and efx on board and even lighter than the mackie! plus mute buttons are led so you see whats muted or not (i dont understand why mackie didnt include this in their new mkII series,big drawback when looping)plus more routing possiblities. and its only a bit more expensive than the cfx16 which is way to big anyway! But when traveling by train i need something even smaller so thats why i am looking at the behringer Xenyx 1204,i want to fit everything in a couple of bags you see... but keep dreaming yeah,there will always be a third bag,that damn FCB1010!!! Luis --- Ian Popperwell <popperwell@iname.com> wrote: > Yes, although the Xenyx are the latest desks (and > grey!). I'm replacing my > Xenyx (which I use for smaller gigs) with a > Soundcraft EFX8 or MFX8 - > anyone know the differences? looks like the MFX is > lmerely an EFX with an > extre AUX send and 2 extra main buses, evrything > else looks the same(?) I > also use an Allen & Heath 16 channel desk which is > much more fully featured > for bigger PA gigs. fWhich reminds me that Allen & > Heath have brought out > the ZED range of smaller desks, which have had good > reviews. > > Ian > > and > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wavecomputer360" <wavecomputer360@gmx.de> > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 12:03 PM > Subject: Re: Looper's Little Mixers... > > > Yes, earlier Behringer designs tended to sound > terrible. I use the MX2642A > in silver livery, though, and this one sounds very > good. Not as good as a > Mackie 1604VLZ but still very well usable. The > earlier models (which came in > dark-blue or grey livery) sounded terrible (I went > through several of them). > I guess Behringer is still the best "bang for the > buck" ratio, > unfortunately, especially when your budget is tight. > > Stephen (who´s going to switch from Behringer to > Mackie in his live rig > soon). > > ____________________________________________________________________ > > "Ambition makes you look pretty ugly, kicking > squealing Gucci little piggy." > (Thom Yorke/Radiohead -- "Paranoid Android") > > Finally available: Stephen Parsick -- Traces of the > Past Redux, reissued > with three previously unreleased bonus tracks. For > more info please check > www.parsick.com > > For legal downloads please check: > > http://www.musiczeit.com/directory.php?artist=296&title=Stephen+Parsick > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Per Boysen" <perboysen@gmail.com> > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 10:45 AM > Subject: Re: Looper's Little Mixers... > > > > I don't have that particular Behringer mixer but I > would advice anyone > > to listen carefully to any Behringer product > before buying. A couple > > of years back I bough their 16 channel Euro model > and I have never > > used it after the tour it was originally purchased > to serve. The > > reason is that it simply degrades the sound so > much that anything I > > use it for sounds more as "that horrible Behringer > mixer" than like > > music to my ears. I have another 16 channels mixer > made by Tascam and > > this thing sounds so much better than the > Behringer although it's > > twenty years older and twenty times heavier (maybe > that's why?). A > > trick might be to no send all your signals through > the mixer but only > > use it for some, like effect loop return lines and > such. Then you > > would at least have some sounds in your > performance that won't come > > out "crappified" through the PA. > > > > -- > > Greetings from Sweden > > > > Per Boysen > > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > > www.looproom.com (international) > > www.stockholm-athens.com > > > > > > On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 10:10 AM, L.A. Angulo > <labaloops@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > I will be checking this one out soon,i need a > compact > > > for traveling purposes it seems to be bulit > after the > > > mackie concept > > > > > > > http://www.behringer.com/1204FX/index.cfm?lang=ENG > > > > > > alt 3/4 plus efx as well which is a must for me > > > price is unbeatable > > > sound quality we will wait and see... > > > anyone has one or tried one yet? > > > Luis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > - New Mackie 802 VLZ3 > > >> > > http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/802VLZ3/ > > >> > This is a really nice, compact, high quality > mixer > > >> by Mackie > > >> > (finally!). A real improvement to the Tapco > > >> quality... > > >> > Especially GREAT is the ALT3/4 stereo bus: I > have > > >> them on my Mackie > > >> > Onyx, too. Really great for choosing what you > want > > >> to route to your > > >> > stereo looper. > > >> > > > >> > Best regards > > >> > Buzap > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > -- > > >> > GMX startet ShortView.de. Hier findest Du > Leute > > >> mit Deinen Interessen! > > >> > Jetzt dabei sein: > > >> http://www.shortview.de/?mc=sv_ext_mf@gmx > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom