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sry, Sanne, i didn't get your last reply to my post for some reason. i think maybe the nsa grabbed it off the internet! My digest email cuts out just before. Anyways, thanks, Sanne, for sharing your set up. Seriously, I'm going to try to do something similar vocally and it saves me a lot of guess-work. I'm sure I'll still have a lot of trial and error to get it working right. Having four pedals, one for each loop, sounds like its definitely the way to go. So, do you just copy the drum track to each loop then? I've got Ableton up and running, and am going to do some experimenting with it, then maybe download Mobius. Loving this, Michael C.