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Rainer, I take your point, but I'm coming from a far less sophisticated perspective, for what it's worth (not much). For me they both fall into the category of "big expensive pieces of software with significant learning curves (so significant that you can't even tell how you'll like them for months) which promise to shoot me straight to musical nirvana". So they're comparable in that slightly-subjective sense. They're comparable in the sense that I pretty much have to choose one or the other for most of my day-to-day music stuff, such as it is, because I can really only keep one of them loaded into functional memory at a time. And because I felt that I financially had to choose between adding capabilities to my Live 6 license or buying Logic Express. It comes down to this: how excited do i get playing with it, how many cool directions does it lead me, how easily can i bend it to my will when i need to? I think the directions that I like to take things - at least right now - are just more suited to the mind-set of Logic. I just wrote my first actual tune in years (ok, i know some of you probably think that's a BAD thing, but I think it's cool), and it was far more spontaneous than my usual process. And I actually got printable notation transcribed off my midi guitar playing, with just a little tweaking. You may be right that the comparison is not valid, but i still think it's worth making a point to the community that $200 buys you an amazing amt of musicality these days. I just think it's a tremendous deal. Warren On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill <rs@moinlabs.de> wrote: > > Frankly, I don't know how it makes sense to compare Live to Logic - >would be > like comparing a GT hologated car to a station wagon. So essentially, the > valid comparison would be e.g. Logic vs Cubase (which does have all of >the > features you mention, except for the guitar-oriented stuff). > > Rainer > > ________________________________ > > Von: warrensirota@gmail.com [mailto:warrensirota@gmail.com] Im > Auftrag von Warren Sirota > Gesendet: Dienstag, 10. Juni 2008 19:01 > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Betreff: OT: In praise of Logic Express > > > I've been goofing around for about a year with Ableton 6, not > seriously trying to stretch it for performance - just using it as a > recorder/editor/mixer, and I just decided to give Logic Express a try, > simply because so many of the people here commend the sound of Logic. Oh > yeah, and I got ticked off that the $500 Live package doesn't come with >an > integrated audio editor. >