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>From what I read, there is a 28 second looper, and in 1/2 speed mode, >there would be 56 seconds. They also have a setting to make feedback of the looper less than 100%, but reading through the initial manual, the looper doesn't seem to put the feedback amount under expression pedal control, nor can you put loop volume under expression pedal control (like on the DL4). The manuals I read weren't complete, and I was told the software for this thing was not finalized, so if this box sounds remotely interesting to any loopers out there, I'd encourage you to make a feature request here: http://www.line6.com/company/contact/productFeedback/?topicSelected=3 I requested to at least to make feedback or loop volume controllable with an expression pedal. Unless I have some sort of control over the loop, I don't think it would be very interesting as a looping device. Dave Eichenberger www.daveeichenberger.com -----Original Message----- I don't think the DL4 models in the M13 include the Looper . Maybe at Line 6 they just watch those Roland/Boss DVDs all day :-) (hence the major focus on canned backing) andy butler Sjaak wrote: >> Per wrote: >> I'd like an m13 loaded with only inter-syncing DL4s! > > Don't follow you here :) Do you mean 4 tempo synced DL4's? The manual >says that the tap tempo is a global function so each DL4 should be able to sync to the global tempo setting. Un-synced is also possible, but dunno what the max delay time of a DL4 is. > > Sjaak > http://home.scarlet.be/gare-d-anvers/sjaak/ > > >