Re: New concept for looping control - extremely small and portable!

["Buzap Buzap" <buzap@gmx.net>]

Hey Per

thanks for the details.

>  When these two crap out on me I will go for some USB powered
> button pad thing that also has analog inputs for simple foot switches
> and expression pedals.
Is there actually anything like that out there??? Having an (optional) 
expression pedal would be so cool...

I'm still thinking about this 1-pedal thing. You know, at the moment, I 
count 20 pedal buttons on my floor and I usually use a dozen of them while 
looping. So, call me a bit biased ;-))
Nevertheless some thoughts:
Couldn't you work it out like this:
- Have your footpedal always trigger a MIDI CC with the number retrieved 
from a variable
- Incidentally, pressing the footpedal once will increase the variable+1
- So next time you press it, it wil trigger the next MIDI CC (whatever you 
assign to it)
- Have your Faderbox buttons assign specific values to that variable
Example:
1. Press Faderfox button A => Assigns variable="12"
2. Press foot pedal => sends a MIDI CC 12 and sets variable++="13"
3. Press foot pedal again => sends a MIDI CC 13 and sets variable="14"...
4. Press Faderfox button B => Assigns variable="30"
5. Press foot pedal => sends a MIDI CC 30 and sets variable="31"
...


Another option would be actually to have some buttons that you can very 
quickly access (i.e. while playing the guitar). So you would train these 
double-moves of rapidly pressing a key manually and then stomping the 
footpedal. Something like the Akai MPC buttons or a 25-key midi keyboard 
would work well for that I could imagine.

While I'm at it:
What do you really need a footpedal for, really? Personally, I mostly sync 
everything to the first cycle. So the only things time critical that a 
footpedal would need to trigger would be:
- Begin of first loop
- End of first loop
- End of a multiply (i.e. when both hands are occupied)
Anthing else could be easily triggered manually when set to switching at 
loop/cycle end, I guess.

Best regards
Buzap




-------- Original-Nachricht --------
> Datum: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 15:15:57 +0200
> Von: "Per Boysen" <perboysen@gmail.com>
> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Betreff: Re: New concept for looping control - extremely small and 
>portable!

> On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 2:27 PM, Buzap Buzap <buzap@gmx.net> wrote:
> > Hi Per
> >
> > which Faderfox(es) are you using?
> 
> Hi Buz,
> 
> I use the two micromodules LV1 and LX1. They are old models that sold
> out some two years ago and I still like them better than the new

> 
> 
> > Still, even better would be for me to have:
> > - a 3-button MIDI pedal (real buttons, not up/down - ANYTHING OUT
> THERE?)
> 
> I too was thinking about that, but I found it less "relaxed" for me. I
> think there is something from Digiteach?
> 
> 
> > -button-sets
> > This would be a bit more relaxed than just one pedal. (or three of your
> pedals on three channels?)
> 
> 
> Well, I really like having just ONE BUTton to kick! I found another
> solution for "arming function" that I like better than the hands-on
> button pad: a one button Apple USB Mouse! Use black Gaffer Tape to
> cover the light hole at the bottom so it won't track cursor movements,
> only leaving the Click Function working. The horrendously beautiful
> transparent glass bulb with an apple inside that I got with my G5 five
> years ago is perfect for this job. You can't go wrong stomping that
> thing on the stage floor ;-)  (glad I finally found a use for that
> bizarre piece of unusable design - it had been hanging on my wall as
> decoration since day one, but now I'll put it to work).
> 
> So, in order to make this "floor mouse clicker + track pad mouse
> pointer" interface intuitive you have to use a software that lets you
> fill the screen with big, bright, colorful, clickable objects. One
> object per looping action. I'm now setting up such systems with Mobius
> VST looper and MainStage AU host.
> 
> --> MainSTage:
> Really good looking and easily detectable screen buttons. I'm still
> not sure you can set up an "incremental button" though (calling a new
> action each time you click it: great for chord change vamps).
> MainStage allows you to bind a screen button to an Apple Script and
> maybe this can be used to get at an incremental click action? (any
> Apple Script aficionados on this list?). Two years ago I studied Kid
> Beyond's Mac rig when he was in Sweden and he was able to use Apple
> Scripts for a lot of things that isn't possible with Ableton Live, so
> I think there might be a way to chain up linear actions that you would
> normally have in parallel on big foot boards like the FCB.
> 
> --> Mobius:
> Screen buttons in Mobuis can be set to call anything, even scripts you
> make. This means they can be used for anything! Right now I'm
> experimenting with "incremental buttons", meaning the button calls an
> "incremental script" and this script activates different functions (or
> other scripts) with each new click. It doesn't "rotate" though; I've
> posted on that to the Mobius list but no word on the matter yet heard.
> 
> I think there is an object in Bidule that also lets you order actions
> "by list", but I haven't had time to go into that yet. Besides, taking
> looper host application I really want to go with the audio effect
> arsenal if MainStage, which is the same set of about fifty awesome
> plug-ins I have gotten to learn well by producing recordings with
> Logic.
> 
> Bottom line: way to go for minimal looping rig excess is INCREMENTAL
> ACTION CALLING!!!
> 
> -- 
> Greetings from Sweden
> 
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se (Swedish)
> www.looproom.com (international)
> www.myspace.com/perboysen

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