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Re: Looping Strategies

Jah Jast wrote:
> First of all sorry for my Pidgin English.
> I'm gonna be unpopular i'm sure but here is some thoughts about Looping. 

Well it's an interesting analysis, but seems very dated.
Shows signs that you didn't check out all the crazy stuff that's 
possible with loops...things that appeared within the last decade.

Suggest you start by checking out Andre Lafosse, for instance.

Perhaps you might want to consider the idea that the loop device is an 
(or part of the instrument).

andy butler
ps...yep, I'm not recommending that bass players switch to guitar,
just explaining why I did that myself...because that question was asked.
I *like* looping bass players.

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> At the first Stade the aspiring Looper is animated by what i would call 
>"the syndrome of the One Man Band" .
> More than Ego (though it is a bit) this is often a problem of lack of 
>confidence along with technique which leads him here.(Tracy Chapman can 
>do a great Song with just an acoustic guitar and 3 or 4 chords no more...)
> The loop strategy here consists in Layering part onto part and try to 
>simulate a band.
> Soon he realizes that as fun as it is,it is a sterile way.
> Then he tends now to become a kind of "Sound Designer".This is the 
>second Stade.The cause here is often a problem of lack of Inspiration,if 
>the one of technique is now improved...
> Accumulate all type of effects is now the Quest.The goal is to sound 
>like a synthesizer even if he plays flute.The loop strategy is now again 
>Layering part onto part onto part....But to be convincing,that requires 
>time (and patience for listeners)...
> And you are stuck in a "vertical motion" (which is not the case with a 
> This is why i have some problems with the layering Concept.
> Every time i listen to Loopers (less and less) i play briefly the 
>begining,the middle,and the end of the track and if i can notice the same 
>loop there and there, then i quit... 
> I really appreciate an approach like the one of Dennis Moser for example 
>and incidentally he uses (very) long Delays more than "pure" Loops, if 
>i'm not wrong.Indeed the horizontal Motion is saved here and Layering and 
>effect processings are not constrictings.
> In fact, i bielieve that a good way to understand WHAT is Looping is to 
>begin to work with short delays and little by little ending with long and 
>finally,conventional Loop techniques.
> The survey of Krispen Hartung was necessary cause it reminds us that 
>first we pretend to be Musicians, not "Mad professors" and there is a lot 
>of work to do on our Instrument.
> PS: I'm a born Bass Player,and i don't intend to shift to Guitar for the 
>sake of Looping (no offence).Thanks.