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Last night Jim and I did our first looperless show together. I did a few solo composed pieces, Jim did a solo tune and a very lovely oud improv, and together we improvised three pieces just with our acoustic guitars - the venue is specifically unplugged without a PA. Though a very loud fan/AC made it kind of a crappy room for acoustic music (nuances were lost and I felt like I had to play at top volume all the time just to be heard), it was a great challenge, and a good feeling to know that we could pull it off. For those of you who improvise live, I'd recommend as a great exercise trying to make a go of an unplugged tune (or at least without the looper) now and then. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com >> These sort of questions make us think who we really are as musicians >> and what defines us. Are you defined by the technology and looping >> gear? Can you stand on your own and be yourself with just an acoustic >> instrument and feel gratified as an artist?